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Thursday, June 22, 2006

Liberal Moonbats: Still Heartless, Still Idiotic




Amnesty International issued this statement concerning the torture-murders of two young American soldiers:
"Amnesty International, first and foremost, extends its sincerest condolences to the families of Pfc. Kristian Menchaca and Pfc. Thomas L. Tucker for their tragic loss. We are deeply disturbed by reports that these two soldiers were brutally tortured. These reports, if proven true, may rise to the level of war crimes.


Amnesty International condemns the torture or summary killing of anyone who has been taken prisoner and reiterates that such acts are absolutely prohibited in international humanitarian law. This prohibition applies at all times, even during armed conflict. There is no honor or heroism in torturing or killing individuals. Those who order or commit such atrocities must be prosecuted to the full extent of the law without recourse to the death penalty."


Right. The Belmont Club said this about that:

The reports, as best I understand them, are that the soldiers were severely tortured before death, their throats slit, after which they were beheaded, then mutilated to the point where only DNA testing could positively identify the bodies. The bodies themselves were then surrounded with antipersonnel devices in a locality frequented by civilians to kill and mutilate anyone who might render assistance or simply catch the unwary.

Let's assign these reports the notation of A. Let's assign the existence of a war crime the notation of B. What I think Amnesty International is saying is that if A then maybe B. However, the truth value of the proposition of the last sentence is not contingent. Rather it is absolute. "Those who order or commit such atrocities must be prosecuted to the full extent of the law without recourse to the death penalty." C. Do C whatever anyone else thinks; whatever else the laws of a sovereign Iraq may specify. C.

My own testament, for the record, are that if I should ever be tortured, have my throat slit, beheaded, mutilated and then have booby traps planted round my corpse so that they might kill any relatives and friends -- should any of this ever happen to me -- that Amnesty International kindly refrain from extending it's "sincerest condolences" and weasely condemnations and offering its insulting and gratuitous advice. I don't want them. I would much rather lie forgotten in some open field than have one of Amnesty International's sick letters on my casket. Not that they would write it.



I cannot conceive of anyone not understanding how evil such torture-murders are, especially those who equate them with something like holding terrorists captive at the Gunatanamo facility.


"Echidne of the Snakes has a short post on horror."...said one of the commenters. I checked it out: Echidne says: "...Where anything I could say would seem wrong, supporting the wrong political ideas, ignoring all the other horrors (Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo), just wrong. Yet somehow not to write about this horror seemed wrong, too. Everything has become politics, including the horrors from both sides. And even saying that appears to imply some sort of equality in horror. There is no such thing about horrors."

This is just the kind of thing that I mean. There is absolutely no comparison between the unbelievably barbaric and evil torture-killings being perpetrated by Islamofascists and the stupid stuff that took place in Abu Ghraib. Echidne is somewhere between clueless and downright evil in nature to even say such a thing!

Quiz- Would you rather...

1) be made to get naked and wear underwear on your head, or

2) have your genitals shoved down your throat, your heart cut out of your chest and your neck sawed off by a long knife?

Go ahead, take your time.

Guantanomo is a prison facility, no horrors going on there other than some idiot "human rights" commission convinced the administration to black out windows on some prisoners who then were able to commit suicide without supervision to prevent them.

The stupidity at Abu Ghraib was perpetrated by just some idiot boneheads who have been duly prosecuted. Mike Adams expresses his justifiable sorrow here.

Islamofascists torture and murder people weekly, sometimes daily. They usually rape and otherwise defile the women before they kill them. Porn to some of these guys is a live video of someone getting their head sawed off after being beaten and stabbed. I viewed one with a soundtrack featuring the noise a person makes when their head is only partly sawn off and they are breathing laboriously through a hole in their neck> I never want to hear that noise again.

Another commenter said I shouldn't use the term "moonbat" and should take the "high road" or something like that. Let me tell you what I really think.

IF YOU ACCUSE THE UNITED STATES OF TORTURE BY POLICY AND EQUATE THE DEATHS OF THOSE TWO SOLDIERS WITH ABU GHRAIB OR GUANTANAMO, MOONBAT IS TOO GOOD A TERM FOR YOU! If you believe that, or say it, you are a hopeless, heartless, liberal moonbat idiot and those two young men are far too good to have sacrificed their lives for the likes of you. If that is truly what you think then I revile you and what you stand for.

Daily Kos hears about the torture-murders and says, "how quaint" and "chickens have come home to roost." Let's see him go find the father of one of those hacked-up PFCs and say that to his face. But then, he has other troubles.....

So does chickenhawk John Murtha....Murtha’s Anti-War Stance Overshadows Abscam Past

Maybe it is the chickenhawks that come home to roost. So, have I made myself clear? I am not in the least bit sympathetic to cowardly appeasing liberal moonbat handwringers and never will be. But history will record them as the losers that they are.

Jeff Emmanuel tells it like it is:

"UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan has called the Iraq war “illegal,” and John Pace, former UN chief of Human Rights for Iraq, has said that human rights conditions are “as bad now as they were under Saddam,” but was it America that filled mass graves with hundreds of thousands of murdered Iraqi civilians?

Last month, Human Rights Watch again accused the US of “brutalizing Muslim suspects in the name of the war on terror,” but how many times have Americans strapped bombs to their own chests and purposely detonated themselves in a large crowd of civilians?

Amnesty International’s website highlights America’s use of “torture or other cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment” against terrorist captives, but how many prisoners—Muslim or otherwise—have Americans brutally beheaded?

Despite the immediate attempts of the anti-war Left to make this murder of American soldiers into an election-year political issue, the gradually stabilizing situation on the ground—especially evidenced by the decreasing frequency of effective insurgent attacks, combined with the increasing desperation of their methods—almost inarguably proves that a turning point in Iraq has been reached...



...America should recognize these men as examples of the myriad heroes which make up our all-volunteer military, and should realize that, without supporting the mission the troops are doing—and the cause for which they are volunteering to give their lives, should it come to that—it is not possible to support the troops themselves.

The tide has turned in the battle to win the peace in postwar Iraq, and those who have stood on the sidelines for the past three years—or, worse, who have actively worked against the cause of freedom and democracy in that nation—are dangerously close to being remembered (if they are remembered at all) not for their support of human rights, but for their self-righteous fight against them—all in the name of their hatred of America, and of George W. Bush."


Jeff Emanuel, a highly decorated military veteran, is a senior at the University of Georgia where he is the Public Relations Director for the UGA College Republicans.

4 comments:

highboy said...

"1) be made to get naked and wear underwear on your head,"

Apparently that's a good time in San Francisco.

Mark K. Sprengel said...

It really sickens me that the press isnt outraged over this treatment of our soldiers. I havent written a post yet as I might just start spewing profanity.

Anonymous said...

"It really sickens me that the press isnt outraged over this treatment of our soldiers"

Are you referring to the brutal torture and execution of those two young men? I think that everyone in the country - besides the actual folks who want to attack us, like the morons who hoped to bomb the Sears Tower - is united in their sorrow, outrage, and disgust.

If you believe our soldiers are being badly treated in some other way (besides by the fact of the war itself, and the many bungles and slip-ups by the Administration), perhaps you could specify how?

-Dan S.

Anonymous said...

At some point I may write a long, disorganized reply - possibly even on my own blog, poor cobweb and dust-covered thing, but two quick points:

"This is just the kind of thing that I mean. There isabsolutely no comparison between the unbelievably barbaric and evil torture-killings being perpetrated by Islamofascists and the stupid stuff that took place in Abu Ghraib. Echidne is somewhere between clueless and downright evil in nature to even say such a thing!"

1) While I don't know her personally, judging by her posts it's pretty clear she's neither clueless nor downright evil - nor anything in between. So there!

2) Given that she writes - as is quoted in the post here :

"And even saying that appears to imply some sort of equality in horror. There is no such thing about horrors."

this reaction seems somewhat misplaced. And of course, there are comparisons between "the unbelievably barbaric and evil torture-killings being perpetrated by Islamofascists and the stupid stuff that took place in Abu Ghraib" (blowingoffsteamjustlikefrathazingafewbadapplesjustacoincidence) - even asserting that they're entirely different is a comparison. Yes, this is a pedantic point hinging on the dual meaning of "compare" - but it's more than that, too.

(3) - (Buy two, get one free! Bonus point!) The assertion that we're not as bad as the folks blowing up innocents on purpose, or torturing captured soldiers to send a message/for fun is to my ears a truly horrifying statement, carrying the whispered implication that hey, y'know, maybe one day, push us hard enough, perhaps we will be. The fact that the people uttering it clearly can't hear this undertone - and thus can't take any measures against it - is even more frightening.

(4) - One more, ok? Just one, honest.
Suicide bombing civilians is a tactic of asymmetrical warfare. Whether we would or wouldn't if placed in that situation - and certainly we do try to avoid civilian casualties to a degree considered decent or better in this time and place - the fact is that we don't have to. Silly point.

-Dan S.