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Monday, September 11, 2006

Crystal Morning

I was unable to watch this without tears falling from my eyes. How about you?

See the post below. I don't really care all that much about Democrats and Republicans. I care about America and freedom. I wish the Democrats were not about using the War Against Terror as a political pawn, willing to aid and abet the enemy in order to get elected...But they are. I wish they weren't for destroying the institution of marriage and killing the unborn by the millions...But they are. I wish they didn't want to lean on the corrupt and useless United Nations for our security and the World Court for a template for our Supreme Court...But they do. Therefore I agreed with and posted the opinion of a retired Sergeant Major, which you will find below...

9 comments:

Mazement said...

I wish they weren't for destroying the institution of marriage

Yikes! I'm sorry that your marriage is being destroyed, but I really don't think you can blame it on the Democrats.

Based on the rhetoric I've seen elsewhere, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that your relationship is suffering because of gay marriage? Most elected Democrats are opposed to gay marriage; witness Clinton's signing of the DOMA. (Elected Democrats generally support domestic partnerships, but I don't see how those could threaten your marriage unless it was weak to begin with.)

Want to talk about it?


Other than that, I wasn't all that impressed by the retired Sergeant Major's diatribe. He just whines out a long litany of his complaints against his political opponents, while steadfastly ignoring any mistakes on his own side of the aisle. That's a dead giveaway that he's not doing an honest policy analysis; he's just subjecting us to Yet Another Partisan Rant.

I'm sure that he served his country honorably, and I'm grateful for that. But it seems like retirement has made him lose his honor and turned him into a petty, hate-filled little man. I don't know. Maybe he'd be better off if he went back to work; retirement isn't for everybody.

cranky old fart said...

"I wish they weren't for destroying the institution of marriage"

Ya know what ends a marriage? Divorce.

Ban divorce if you're really seriously concerned about the institution of marriage. Like that's gonna happen.

"The Associated Press, using data supplied by the US Census Bureau, found that the highest divorce rates are to be found in the Bible Belt. The AP report stated that "the divorce rates in these conservative states are roughly 50 percent above the national average of 4.2 per thousand people."

highboy said...

"The Associated Press, using data supplied by the US Census Bureau, found that the highest divorce rates are to be found in the Bible Belt. The AP report stated that "the divorce rates in these conservative states are roughly 50 percent above the national average of 4.2 per thousand people."

Sure.

scohen said...

Tim,
I think your network is still flaky, it seems to cut out right before you're going to make a point that uses facts.

Looks like cranky was right, these were the top three links brought to you from a google search for 'states with highest divorce rate'.

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I know how you feel though, I was going to get married, and then I learned that homosexuals wanted to get married too, and suddenly marriage lost all of its allure.

highboy said...

Scohen: The point of my "sure" statement is not to argue against cranky's points, but to make you aware that its entirely irrelevant. Pointing out that the "Bible Belt" has the highest rate of divorce means...what? Is this to suggest that more Christians get divorced than non? Do you have a statistic that backs that up?

cranky old fart said...

Highboy,

I guess you didn't bother to read the links:

"While it may be alarming to discover that born again Christians are more likely than others to experience a divorce, that pattern has been in place for quite some time."

But the real point, of course, is that gay marriage does not threaten yours, mine, or anyone's marriage. It threatens homophobic sensibilities, but not heterosexual marriages.

highboy said...

"While it may be alarming to discover that born again Christians are more likely than others to experience a divorce, that pattern has been in place for quite some time."

Yeah, I read that speculation. But seeing as how there is really no way to determine that without asking each divorced couple one by one if they accepted Jesus as their Savior or not, it remains a speculation and therefore irrelevant.

"But the real point, of course, is that gay marriage does not threaten yours, mine, or anyone's marriage. It threatens homophobic sensibilities, but not heterosexual marriages."

Liberal left wing nuts threaten marriage, not gays, as it is the left who have repeatedly cut the value of a marriage in half by allowing gays to marry, and pretending that fornication, divorce, and sexual promiscuity are no big deal. The state has no business recognizing a gay marriage. You know it, I know it, its all partisan to you libs, all the time. If Bush came out and supported queer marriages, watch how fast liberals become "homophobic" all of a sudden.

IAMB said...

Liberal left wing nuts threaten marriage, not gays, as it is the left who have repeatedly cut the value of a marriage in half by allowing gays to marry, and pretending that fornication, divorce, and sexual promiscuity are no big deal.

How exactly does it cut the value of marriage to extend the right to all citizens? Maybe I missed something. Sorry to tell you, but we on the left never said divorce was no big deal. We just happen to accept that it's a reality we won't be rid of any time soon, if ever at all. And fornication is a big deal? Perhaps to your sensibilities, but it's something that has been going on for time out of memory. Do you have a realistic way to stop people from being people?

If Bush came out and supported queer marriages, watch how fast liberals become "homophobic" all of a sudden.

Thanks. I just sprayed coffee all over my monitor. I can pretty much guarantee you that us liberals, if such an event were to take place, wouldn't become homophobic at all. We'd simply say "look ma, he finally grew a bit of sense". You can email Markos and ask him if you want, but I'd wager he'd agree with me.

highboy said...

"Perhaps to your sensibilities, but it's something that has been going on for time out of memory."

So has murder. I guess that's no big deal either.

"We'd simply say "look ma, he finally grew a bit of sense"."

Sure you would. And btw, gays DO have the right to marry. They can just do it like everyone else, since marriage is between a man and a woman. What you call "sense", I call stupidity.