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Tuesday, October 21, 2008

Is it okay with you if ACORN steals the election?

You probably are aware that an ACORN worker provided the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys as registered voters in Nevada. Did you know that after ACORN submitted their piles of registrations that there are now more registered voters in Indianapolis than the actual population of the city, children and babies included?! From my emails I have also gleaned this information:

CNN's Drew Griffin reports from Lake County, Indiana:

"ACORN's in trouble all across the country with it's a huge voter-registration drive. Actually, 1.3 million new voters registered according to ACORN. The problem is, are they really voters? Up in Lake County, Indiana, they're finding out they are not. Some 5,000 applications came in, all filled out by ACORN, and there they are. They went through the first 2,100 of them, every single one of them, fraudulent." On October 13, Fox News interviewed two newly registered young men in Ohio. One said he'd registered with ACORN 15 times! Another said he registered 73 times! Both said the ACORN canvassers pleaded: "If you don't sign I'll lose my job."

The above really ticks me off! I live in Lake County, Indiana. In the last election we had votes being thrown out for being residents of Illinois, for listing empty lots as residences and for being dead, among other things. But we don't know how many fraudulent votes slipped through the cracks. In a way it doesn't matter much because the Democratic Machine has a stranglehold on Northern Lake County and has helped Gary and Hammond and East Chicago turn into one long line of slums and abandonded buildings. The Democrats win every election up there no matter who they run.

The New York Post reported:

"Last July, ACORN settled the largest case of voter fraud in Washington state history. Seven ACORN workers had submitted nearly 2,000 bogus voter forms. According to case records, they flipped through phone books for names to use on the forms, including 'Leon Spinks,' 'Frekkie Magoal' and 'Fruto Boy Crispila.' Three ACORN election hoaxers pleaded guilty in October. A King County prosecutor called ACORN's criminal sabotage 'an act of vandalism upon the voter rolls.'"

Did you know that the current Governor of Washington "won" a controversial election in which she probably got fewer votes and it is likely that fraudulent votes gave her a win that should have been a loss?

And The Wall Street Journal reported:

"In Ohio in 2004, a worker for one affiliate was given crack cocaine in exchange for fraudulent registrations that included underage voters, dead voters and pillars of the community named Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy, and Jive Turkey. During a congressional hearing in Ohio in the aftermath of the 2004 election, officials from several counties in the state explained ACORN's practice of dumping thousands of registration forms in their lap on the submission deadline, even though the forms had been collected months earlier."

Yes, ACORN is being investigate by the FBI in a dozen states and there have been rumbles of problems in 26 states. ACORN is the group that helped push the Democratic Congress to ride Freddie and Fannie hard and put them up wet, causing them to fall over dead. I have posted on that before and you know the deal.

Yesterday I heard Barack Obama urging his supporters to vote on "Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday..." because you never know what might happen. A subtle message to some to use their fake registrations to vote more than once? A plea to vote before the October surprise? We shall see...


Anonymous said...

Just because a canvasser fills out a voter application for Mickey Mouse to pad his or her quota or paycheck or whatever doesn't mean that Mickey Mouse is going to show up to vote on election day.

Don't confuse voter registration fraud with vote fraud.

"Yesterday I heard Barack Obama urging his supporters to vote on "Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday..." because you never know what might happen."


-- creeper

radar said...

So your answer, then, is yes?

radar said...

Obama was saying it on television, live, at a rally on Monday evening. Not sure where he was, cannot stand to listen to him for very long anymore.

Anonymous said...

"So your answer, then, is yes?"

?? How would you draw that conclusion based on what I wrote?

I'm saying don't confuse voter registration fraud with vote fraud, i.e. ACORN canvassers padding their quotas with fake registrations is the former, not the latter, and certainly doesn't constitute "stealing an election".

Sounds like the two young men interviewed by Fox News were trying to do the ACORN canvassers a favor in reaction to their pleading.

Now, is that guy who filled out a form 73 times going to vote 73 times on election day? He'd have to have a heck of a lot of fake ID.

And no, it's never okay if anyone steals an election, all election fraud needs to be found out and prosecuted (with severe penalties IMO).

-- creeper

Anonymous said...

"Obama was saying it on television, live, at a rally on Monday evening."

I'll take your paraphrase with a colossal grain of sand then. Not to put too fine a point on it, but it sure sounds like you made it up or at the very least twisted whatever Obama said beyond recognition.

-- creeper

radar said...

NO, I quoted him as he spoke. Now he didn't say to vote on EACH of those days. He just said, something could happen so go vote on...and then came the quote. It was just funny because he said that and I turned to my wife and said, "vote early, vote often" which is a phrase heard more than once in the Chicago area!

I know he did not say that anyone should vote more than once but it was humorous considering the context of the times and that a news story just before had referenced ACORN.

BTW I believe ACORN is throwing multitudes of fake registrations into the hopper in the hopes that some illegal votes will thereby get in. They have been doing the same thing for the last few elections, why else do they do this?

Anonymous said...

"NO, I quoted him as he spoke. Now he didn't say to vote on EACH of those days. "

Thank you. 'Nuff said. So he encouraged people to take advantage of early voting. Big deal.

And you got a chuckle out of quipping "vote early, vote often". Whoop-dee-doo.

Question for you, Radar: after 8 years of George W. Bush, how do you feel about his presidency?

-- creeper

radar said...

"Question for you, Radar: after 8 years of George W. Bush, how do you feel about his presidency?"

God bless you, creeper, for asking a question like that!

1) I am deeply disappointed in him for allowing government spending to grow during his Presidency. No matter what else, that is a black mark against him.

2) On the other hand, I believe he handled the security threats of the post-9/11 world well. I agree with the Iraq War and almost everyone else did at the time as well. Many have turned around and completely changed their viewpoints but he stuck with his guns. He also listened to McCain and Petraeus and went with the surge, which has worked very well.

3) I am very unhappy with his tendency towards cronyism. I don't mean sneaking millions of dollars to people, I mean hiring associates to positions of power who were not necessarily qualified. Many of them were not even on his side politically. Too much Texas Ranch gang for my liking.

4) I admire him for taking all the hate talk and the portrayals of him as bushchimphitler and all the other garbage without really even shooting back. No crying about the vast left wing conspiracy from him, he would just go and even make fun of himself from time to time. He was unfairly villified, had documents forged trying to besmirch him and he stayed his course and stayed George Bush. That is admirable.

5) I don't think he was wrong on Iraq and I also don't think he was wrong theoretically on Guantanamo. People shooting at you in wartime are prisoners of war, not the same as ordinary criminals. But for the sake of unity and for political gain he should have made the processing of such prisoners expedient and not so far from the battlefield. It became a political football when all it should have been was a prison camp. Big morass and not necessary.

6) Seeing what Al Gore is doing with the man-made global warming hysteria (which is day by day being scientifically disproven, by the way) the best thing about George Bush is that he kept Al Gore safely away from the White House.

7) Last, despite some bumbling and some cronyism and a big dose of becoming used to the frantic spending of the Washington insiders, I believe he was a man of honor and integrity. I believe he served because he felt it was a duty if he could step in and meet the need. Despite my misgivings in several areas, I will still admire him for being him.

That is what I think. I do almost hate to ask, but I will ask you what you think, creeper?

radar said...

Nope, no voter fraud being planned in Illinois. Hahahahaha!

eno said...

Democrats register too many, but I firmly believe, from too many sources to quote here, that Republicans practice voter suppression any time they can.

radar said...

In Virgina, Democrats tried to suppress military votes for this year's election. In Florida in the year 2000, the Gore campaign succeeded in having thousands of military votes thrown out. So when it comes to voter suppression, the Democrats have been good at it as long as it is votes from our overseas troops.

Republicans are trying to make sure only real voters vote. Not dead goldfish. Not Osama Bin Laden.

I live in Lake County, Indiana. The corruption in the Democratic Machine is just unbelievably bad! Several Lake County officials have been indicted and convicted on Federal charges in the last five years. The East Chicago mayoral race was so full of fake and multiple voting it had to be entirely redone!

All I want is for real voters to vote and fake votes to be thrown out. You call that voter suppression and I call that Democracy. My vote and your vote is worth less if some party hack can get a few thousand fake votes entered into the system. That many votes can change the outcome of a Presidential race!

I want to know how ensuring that a voter is a citizen and resident of a state before counting their vote is suppression?