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Monday, October 19, 2009

Nobamacare...no words needed



11 comments:

Anonymous said...

You know that you are just a mouthpiece when it comes to this health care stuff, right? A mouthpiece for individuals that you have very little in common with, at least socioeconomically speaking.

Watch Rachel Maddow get it right,
http://www.dailykostv.com/w/002259/index.html

- Canucklehead

highboy said...

The minute he posted a link from daily kos you knew it was more clap trap. What am I saying, the minute he posted at all....

Anonymous said...

This coming from the most ridiculous poster on this entire site. Are we supposed to be surprised that you prefer to stick your head in the sand when it comes to stuff like this? Good for you hb, your statement confirms what I've always assumed; that you actually choose to be ignorant on these topics. They're hosting a clip from the Rachel Maddow show, dummy. Just watch the clip. Or are you too scared?

- Canucklehead

Anonymous said...

You are also the guy that posts articles containing completely bogus stats on government healthcare systems, in order to support your wildly ignorant claims. Oh and, of course you also cite random conservative blogs from random conservative nut jobs, to prove your points as well. With your standards set so high hb, I can see how you would immediately discredit a site like the daily kos.

Just loving your dumbness today Tim.

- Canucklehead

Anonymous said...

Here's Senator Franken confronting some of the outright lies and cherry picked "facts" used by those on the Anti-Healthcare Reform side.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgqqSHr0wVA&feature=player_embedded

- Canucklehead

Anonymous said...

Radar, please clarify:

1. You have no health insurance, correct?

2. You receive a "small stipend" every month toward your health expenses, correct?

3. In case of a major health problem that required costly treatment, you would do what exactly?

-- creeper

radar said...

Al Franken, taken seriously?!? Hahahahahahahaha!!! That's the only time he is actually funny.

radar said...

Radar, please clarify:

1. You have no health insurance, correct?

2. You receive a "small stipend" every month toward your health expenses, correct?

3. In case of a major health problem that required costly treatment, you would do what exactly?

-- creeper

I pay cash to my doctor, who charges me less because his office does not have to screw around with paperwork.

When I went to the hospital they reduced my bill because I was a cash payer and I paid immediately.

If I had a big bill I would pay by credit card and begin finding ways to pay it off. I have credit, heck, one card alone I can charge 25,000 at one time.

If I was told they could treat me for maybe half a million bucks I would probably decline treatment. I would have to think and pray on it but I know the hospital would treat me no matter what. I would hate to declare bankruptcy and take their money away. I am not afraid to die. But in this country I could get treatment. Go to nationalized health care and if I have a serious condition my wait time to be treated will probably be so great I will die first anyway.

Anonymous said...

Radar, you really need to wake up when it comes to this issue, and frankly, so does Debbie (I mean you may be completely wrong on lots of issues, but at least your anti-evolution beliefs aren't going to kill you). Please listen here Radar, as I really am dead serious. What you wrote above is truly tragic. You may not be scared of dying but I can guarantee that it scares the shit out of your wife and children. And the fact that you continue to argue for a health care system that will, by your own words, either bankrupt or kill you, is mind boggling. Radar, please get yourself informed on medical systems like we have up here in Canada, and don't take my word for it. Ask other Canadians how they feel about our medical system, I can almost guarantee that I know what they'd say.

What is so frightening here, is that you appear to believe what hb posts on this site about government health care systems. Radar, Tim High doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. He is a young punk, lacking the life experience to understand issues like this. To him it's all about supposed "principal", no matter the cost. It's our side vs. theirs, without looking into the issue first he looks for what he's supposed to say and goes with that. You need to realize that he, and other anti-health care reformers, are essentially arguing for the continued, unnecessary, suffering of your entire family (although he did say that he would give you money if you asked for it, so maybe hit him up for the $500k). You are both so unbelievably wrong here, and, so tragically wrong, in your specific case. As I have said in the past, wait times do exist in Canada, but they are for non life-threatening, non-serious things like knee and hip replacements (we are also working to reduce wait times for these procedures as well). Anything like your health issues that you have described in the past are treated immediately, and by some of the best medical professionals in the world. Get that through your head, man. In any government system, serious medical problems get addressed first. Nobody is dying on wait lists, simply because they are on a wait list. If I had what you have, all I would have to focus on is getting better, not what it would cost, or the terrible financial situation I'd be leaving my family in, should something awful happen. If only for the sake of your family, as I said above, you desperately need to wake up when it comes to this specific issue.

I just don't get it, Radar. You know that Canadians and Europeans love their systems and that they believe that they work, are you saying that Americans are just too dumb to pull it off for themselves? That can't be your conclusion, can it? Or do you just think for some reason, everybody else is too dumb to figure out that they aren't getting the care they think they are? BTW, starting Monday, we've got free H1N1 vaccinations for any Canadian that wants one. Did I mention they're free?

And did you even watch the Franken video? It pertains directly to your situation. Medical bankruptcies don't exist in countries with government systems. They simply don't exist. At All.

- Canucklehead

P.S. - RE: your Franken comments, it sure is nice of you to judge a guy entirely based on a previous career. I mean, aren't you on record as claiming to have been an actual drug dealer at one point in your life? What does that say about how others should "take" your thoughts and opinions?

radar said...

Since I am working, I will respond to Canucklehead later on, probably this evening. But Canucklehead, thank you for making an intelligent argument. You made valid points rather than going for killshots and you deserve an honest and thoughtful response.

Anonymous said...

Radar,

so in essence, in case you require costly treatment (which is not outside the realm of possibility), your options would be bankruptcy AND/OR death.

Does that strike you as a good system?

Try to put aside any partisan blinders and just think about that for a bit.

-- creeper