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Wednesday, August 10, 2011

London Riots, Socialism, the result of Darwinist belief systems and the denial of God


Sky News.  

Alex Sarson:  "They didn’t riot before because they were still having it handed to them on a silver platter."

You know, the fact is that ideas have consequences and since we are talking about Naturalistic Materialists and their Atheistic Hedonist Humanistic philosophies, I think we should remember that they were the underpinnings of the Third Reich and the Soviet Union and such liberalism is now destroying England...literally!

I don't just attack Darwinism because it is wrong and bad science, I attack it because it has deadly implications for mankind.  You see, Darwinism is associated with liberal socialist policies, communism, fascism, eugenics, abortion and the welfare state policies that wind up keeping the poor poor and destroying the family in poor areas. 

A kid on the South Side of Chicago will be darned fortunate if he can get an education and live through his childhood without being forced into joining a gang and introduced to a life of crime, drugs and violence.  I used to walk those streets armed only with a Bible, talking to gangbangers and old people and young couples and kids and drug addicts.   Now the places I walked as a 30-something guy are even more dangerous now.   The gangs will often let the gifted sports stars be and maybe a talented singer will skate by but everyone else either joins the gangs or lives in fear...or dies.

The Robert Taylor homes have been torn down, but don't be fooled, the poor and desperate are still there, they just aren't as obvious to the tourists driving into the city to walk by the State Street stores, visit the museums or sample the night life on Rush Street.   They come to see sporting events and maybe the zoo or even the lakefront beaches.    But if tourists wander a dozen blocks off the beaten track they might well find themselves in a war zone.   Bullets fly every night in Chicago.   How many unreported deaths of gangsters and their victims are there?   How many of the homeless die of exposure or malnutrition and go unidentified and unclaimed?

The son of one of our church families and his wife and children have moved into a poor Hispanic area of Chicago and established a minstry there.   The ministry also provides teaching for young people and food and clothing and even shelter for some.   This young couple could live a good life in a safe area near their parents and be concentrating on making a nice bank account and spiffing up a nice, new home.  He had a degree and had a nice job in a marketing capacity.  But Matt and his family became missionaries to Chicago instead.   They are making a difference in their area.  He is the Director - Urban Life Skills Program at New Life Centers of Chicagoland.  I'll probably blog about the things that he and his fellow missionaries are doing to bring help to the inner cities.

Communists like Barack Obama came to Chicago to rally people to learn to hate and rail against America and capitalism and take to the streets with one hand held out and one fist held up.   How much has Chicago's Democratic Machine helped the poor and needy?   Rahm Emmanuel became mayor, put his kids in private schools and began laying off city workers.   So I guess he "helped" the poor by producing more of them!   Yet the same folks who barely scrape by year after year will go vote a straight Democrat ticket in exchange for a ride, a ten dollar bill or maybe a little baggie full of white powder.

You want to know why there are riots in London?  Let me quote a commenter from the British Guido Fawkes Blog...

("Michael Gove told Harriet Harman on Newsnight
“…if there is anyone responsible for how these children were brought up, it is the Labour party”. )

"
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misterned says:
Below I list a number of the root causes of the rioting. Note that it does not include poverty, youths not being listened to, or respected or any of the other ridiculous theories which seek to remove the blame from the society which caused these riots. Society has changed a lot over the last 15 years. Some things for the better. There is a lot more tolerance of gays, and immigrants and a lot less racism and homophobia. Although these are increasing in some communities.

However, the changes in society over the last 14 years have created a specific section of society, which although there has always been a troubled element, anti-social and disconnected, this has been “fine tuned” by certain rule-sets of the rest of society to create the conditions for these violent looting sprees to occur. These changes in society are as follows.

-removing discipline from schools for fear of damaging children’s self esteem.
-encouraging parents to have soft discipline at home. Smacking your child is frowned upon. (sadly, a tiny minority of children need this sanction, as nothing else will work on them. I know, I was one)
-giving children their full adult rights, when they are too young to comprehend responsibility.
-undermining marriage. Making single parenthood acceptable and financially penalising couples, rewarding marriage break-ups through the benefits system.
- The government and media’s sexist portrayal of men as being either stupid and useless to be pitied or ignored, or potentially aggressive violent rapists to be feared.
-Father’s being prevented access to their children and the state automatically taking the woman’s side.
-A sustained left wing politically correct attack on men generally and the relentless feminisation of society.
-compensation culture breeding a health and safety nightmare preventing the police from taking risks, for fear of compensation lawsuits filed by the police.
-politically correct policing turning a blind eye to some communities and their criminal activities for fear of being branded racist.
-The state neutering communities and creating a dependency culture which creates communities full of people who believe that they need not get involved, that they are powerless and the state should solve all our problems. We are fearful to help people in need because we may be sued for any inadvertent injury caused.
-Creating massive tensions by massively and deliberately increasing immigration in order for the left to “rub the right’s noses in diversity” bringing huge numbers of people in from foreign cultures
who have no natural understanding of our traditional values of fairness and justice and the rule of law (the ones which have been relentlessly undermined for over a decade) Without giving them time to adjust and integrate into our society, they create their own societies in their own ghettos where they live by their own rules.
-Constantly weakening the justice system so that there are no real punishments anymore. Theft from a shop does not result in prison for example.

All the above have been relentlessly eroding the fabric of our society and all have been deliberate labour policy in their irresponsible and catastrophic social experiment.
Do not let the liberals blame “deprivation and lack of opportunity” for these riots. We have poured millions and millions of pounds into run-down areas over the past 15 years. It has not worked. If after 13 years of labour governments, these predominantly labour areas are STILL full of deprivation, you have to ask WHY? Is this not a catastrophic failure by labour over their 13 years to raise the living standards of their core demographic?
These riots are not caused by cutting a few youth clubs. They are caused by years and years of liberal social conditioning to create a criminal element that now KNOWS that the state cannot control them anymore."
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Yes, Britain is learning the hard way about allowing Communism and Liberalism and Socialism and the whole sorry lot to have their way at the expense of traditional values and mores.   Wealth redistribution is nothing but government-sponsored theft from the people who produce and then giving it to people who will then have no respect for either the fundage or the source or anyone or anything other than their own sorry selves!  Giving Islamists a free hand will do nothing but lead to more subways being bombed and more rioting yet to come...
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Man, 21, arrested on suspicion of arson attack on historic family-run furniture shop that survived the blitz


  • House of Reeves, established in 1867, is now just a charred shell
  • Family owners say 'Our lives have been ruined by the fire'


By Daily Mail Reporter

Last updated at 4:43 PM on 10th August 2011

Police have arrested a 21-year-old man over the fire that destroyed the 140-year-old Reeves furniture store in Croydon at the height of the riots.

House of Reeves has stood on the same corner for more than a century but was targeted by rioters as violence spread across the capital on Monday evening.

Flames ripped through the historic building and spread to neighbouring businesses as firemen battled desperately to quell the inferno.

But it is now likely that the damage which was 'worse than the blitz' would force the ravaged building to be demolished and rebuilt.

As London cleans up after the riots, an internet group has been set up with people pledging to donate £10 to help Reeves rebuild their shop. This afternoon 81 people had offered to give money. However, the donations will only be handed over if 1,000 people contribute.


Heartbroken: Reeves furniture store owner Maurice Reeves arrives today at the ruined 140-year-old store in Croydon
Heartbroken: Reeves furniture store owner Maurice Reeves arrives today at the store's ruined 140-year-old building in Croydon



Wreck: The burnt out shell of the 140-year-old Reeves Furniture store in Croydon is littered with charred rafters and bricks today after being set alight in the riots last night
Wreck: The burnt out shell of the 140-year-old Reeves Furniture store in Croydon is littered with charred rafters and bricks today after being set alight in the riots last night




Aftermath: Firefighters continue to pour water onto the smouldering remains of the family-run independent store this morning. The iconic building is now likely to be demolished
Aftermath: Firefighters continue to pour water onto the smouldering remains of the family-run independent store this morning. The iconic building is now likely to be demolished




Iconic: The store has stood on the same spot for so long that the road has been named after it
Reeves owner Maurice Reeves is devastated as he returns to his shop this morning to see the damage inflicted by the rioters
Lives ruined: Reeves owner Maurice Reeves, left, is devastated as he returns to his shop this morning to see the damage inflicted by the rioters, and right, the sign on the road which has been named after the iconic store


Destroyed: An aerial shot shows the extent of the damage to the Reeves building from the fire last night
Destroyed: An aerial shot shows the extent of the damage to the Reeves building from the fire last night

The owners of the family furniture store were devastated after seeing the charmed remains of the building that fell victim to the riots last night.

Owner Trevor Reeves said: 'It has just provided (for) my family and the 15 or 20 staff and families that were supported, it's just completely destroyed.

'Words fail me. It's just gone, it's five generations. My father is distraught at the moment. It's just mindless thuggery.'

His brother Graham told Sky News: 'Our lives are destroyed, it will probably be someone else next week. It's horrendous, 35 years I have been down here.'

He said the business was established in 1867, but he now had 'nothing', adding: 'Everything is just gone, we have just got nothing left.

'I was in the Brixton riots but this is worse. My life is destroyed.'

One eye witness said: 'The building has survived the test of time. The damage last night was worse than the blitz.







Croydon town centre was still smouldering this morning as firefighters dampened down a building amid burned out cars
Croydon town centre was still smouldering this morning as firefighters dampened down a building amid burned out cars




Croydon on fire
Croydon on fire
Firefighters are seen on a roof in Croydon trying to make the building safe after it was damaged by fire. The street is littered with glass but is practically deserted




Devastated: Several buildings smouldering in Croydon with roofs completely destroyed in this aerial shot
Devastated: Several buildings smouldering in Croydon with roofs completely destroyed in this aerial shot


Reeves furniture store
Reeves furniture store
Before and after: Reeves furniture store just a short while before the riots, and right, engulfed in flames


Historic: A black and white picture shows how Reeves used to look
Historic: A black and white picture shows how Reeves used to look
'The area was known for the Reeves furniture store, and that part of the street had been named Reeves Corner.'
The escalating disorder in London began in Tottenham on Saturday evening. The iconic Carpetright building which had also survived the ravages of war and time was destroyed.
Last night saw violence flare across the capital with Croyden being one of the worst towns to be hit.
A man was rushed to hospital with life-threatening injuries after being shot during the chaos.


After the storm: Fire crews douse out burnt out buildings on London Road in Croydon this morning following the worst night of rioting
After the storm: Fire crews douse out burnt out buildings on London Road in Croydon this morning following the worst night of rioting
The fires burned through the night as Croydon was hit by rioting and looting
The fires burned through the night as Croydon was hit by rioting and looting


Ablaze: Fire rips through the Reeves furniture store bringing to an end 140 years of history which has seen the building become one of the region's best known buildings
Ablaze: Fire rips through the London Road shops as desperate firefighters attempt to extinguish the flames


Enlarge Bonfire: Hot are sent spluttering into into the air as fire takes a hold of the Reeves building in the midst of the riots that swept through the town last night
Bonfire: Hot are sent spluttering into into the air as fire takes a hold of the Reeves building in the midst of the riots that swept through the town last night




Eaten by flames: The scale and size of the fire at House of Reeves provided frightening images even after two previous nights of fire and looting
Eaten by flames: Two firemen look on from the street as the scale and size of the fire at Reeves provides frightening scenes even after two previous nights of fire and looting




Helpless: A riot officer watches the building burn, but by the time overworked firefighters arrived on scene the battle was already lost
Helpless: A riot officer watches the building burn, but by the time overworked firefighters arrived on scene the battle was already lost



Police struggled to contain the chaos as hooded youths tore through the region smashing anything in their path and hurling bricks, petrol bombs and missiles into the air.

Croydon Central MP Gavin Barwell said: 'I'm sickened to see this happening in my town. My first instinct is sympathy for the businesses and residents who have been directly affected by what's happened.

'The main building which was seen on fire at Reeves Corner is a family business called Reeves, which has been there for a century, and it's been completely destroyed.

'The people responsible for this wanton violence need to be brought to justice.'

Mr Barwell, who has lived in Croydon all his life, said he was trying to speak to the Home Secretary to urgently discuss police resources.

He said: 'The Met Police and fire brigade need to be given resources from other parts of the country to make sure that another night of this violence does not take place.'


Overpowering: A fireman stands with his hands on his hips as the raging inferno tears through Reeves
Croydon Council leader Mike Fisher said the century old building had been destroyed 'just because these morons think it is all right'
Overpowering: A fireman stands with his hands on his hips as the raging inferno tears through Reeves, and right, a colleague emerges from the smoke


Such a waste: The carpet store and apartment complex that was burned down in Tottenham on the first night of rioting was also a Victorian era building that had survived the war
Such a waste: The carpet store and apartment complex that was burned down in Tottenham on the first night of rioting was also a Victorian era building that had survived the war






Several blazes were seen across Croydon, with plumes of smoke rising from the buildings, prompting outrage from local residents.

Pub landlord Alan McCabe told the BBC: 'I have never seen such a disregard for human life. I hope they rot in hell.

'The grief they have caused people, the fear they have put in people's hearts, decent people who have done nothing to anyone.'

Simon Hoar, cabinet member for community safety at Croydon Council, said: 'It is an absolute disgrace. It has nothing to do with any issues these people have. These are pure common thieves more interested in getting a free telly.'

Mike Fisher, leader of Croydon Council, said: 'I am disgusted by the mindless hooliganism displayed by the criminal element that has come to Croydon.

'Businesses that have been around in Croydon for more than 100 years have been destroyed just because these morons think it is all right.

'The council will do all that it can to assist the police in bringing these people to book. It is simply not acceptable.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2023975/London-riots-2011-Man-21-arrested-Croydons-House-Reeves-arson-attack.html#ixzz1UfPslCPf



The London Riots?  Symptomatic.  England booted God out of the schools and houses and even out of their own Anglican Church years ago.  Now they have Moonbattery!  In fact riots in London by the mindless propagandized youth run amok are becoming habitual...



March 26, 2011

London Riots Illustrate the Decline and Fall of Britain

Posted by Dave Blount at March 26, 2011 10:54 AM

Liberalism is a disease that attacks the moral backbone of a civilization, rotting it into a putrescent jelly that cannot hold society erect. At that point it collapses. This is happening now in Britain, which was one of the greatest nations in history within the memory of many still living today.
Anarchists today broke away from one of the largest protests Britain has ever seen to bring chaos to the streets of London.
The Ritz hotel and Fortnum & Mason were among the buildings targeted in the capital after groups of rampaging youths intent on spreading havoc left the mass anti-cuts demonstration.
Around 500,000 activists and campaigners descended on London this morning to protest at the Government's drastic cuts programme.
The cuts were as inevitable as the riots. As the last great British leader Margaret Thatcher observed, "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money. "

Here's what liberalism looks like when it reaches full flower:
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The white stuff is paint. The cockroaches with the masks are the result of generations that were never expected to take any responsibility for their own parasitical existences. They are Britain's post-civilization future, bred by the Dole.

Next comes authoritarian collectivism, a totalitarian form of serfdom.

If this could happen to Britain, it could happen to America — and it will, if the disease is not cured quickly.

On a tip from mega.



Godfather Politics chimes in.   Help yourself to the implications thereof...Socialism ALWAYS fails and ALWAYS winds up with a small group of rich guys in charge.  Guess what?  Obama is a rich guy.  He sends his kids to a pricey private school.  A mob boss helped him buy his million-dollar plus property in Illinois and yet it is hard to pinpoint where he actually comes from and who he actually is.  Why does Barry Otero have a faked birth certificate and a Connecticut social security number and how did he get into Harvard anyway?  Where are his school records?  Why are all his so-called Obama relatives living in abject poverty out of his sight? 

Before you call me a nut, answer the questions!

Evolution, Richard Dawkins, and the London Rioters

atheist Bus

Two girls who took part in Monday night’s riots in Croydon, a town in South London, England, have boasted that they were showing police and “the rich people that we can do what we want.” They said it calmly and matter-of-factly. Has Richard Dawkins contributed to a change in moral philosophy among London’s youth with his atheist bus campaign?

London buses have been outfitted with the following banner ads: “There’s Probably No God. Now Stop Worrying and Enjoy Life.”[1] The sponsors hope the postings will get people to question the existence of God: “This campaign to put alternative slogans on London buses will make people think — and thinking is anathema to religion,” the promoters argue. “[Richard] Dawkins said that as an atheist he ‘wasn’t wild’ about the ad’s assertion that there was ‘probably’ no God.”[2] He wanted them to say, “There is no God.”


If there is no God, then who gets to say what constitutes enjoying life? Are there any restrictions on enjoying life? If there are, then who gets to set the restrictions and why?
Now people are being robbed. Businesses are being burned. Reports on Twitter claimed some people were being stripped, while another shocking video shows a bleeding teenager being robbed in broad daylight by lawless thugs who pretend to help him to his feet. Here’s how one newspaper headline describes what’s going on: “‘Mob Rule’ as London Rioting Spreads.” It seems to me that it’s nothing more than evolution’s “survival of the fittest” in action.

There’s no God, Dawkins and his fellow atheists have been telling Londoners, so stop worrying and enjoy life. The rioters are enjoying life at the expense of others, and who are you or anyone else to say that they shouldn’t be enjoying life this way?
Notes:
  1. See Gwynne Dyer, “The Atheist Buses” (February 8, 2009). []
  2. Atheists Plan Anti-God Ad Campaign on Buses” (October 23, 2008). []

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Is Martial Law and Dictatorship Around the Corner?


These are indeed scary times for many Americans and the future is full of chaos and uncertainty.

But is it really uncertainty or is this part of a scripted plan being played out in the nation’s capitol?

In the three years since Obama took office, he has pushed legislation that has disregarded the US Constitution, given the federal government more power over businesses and the financial market and placed the nation on the verge of financial collapse. The head of one of China’s largest credit rating agency has said that the US dollar is being dropped as the reserve currency of the world’s economy. After the credit downgrading, the markets took a drastic drop on Monday.

Obama has instituted one socialist policy after another. The Communist Party USA has officially endorsed him for the 2012 election.

If you truly look at Obama’s life and the influence of numerous Marxists and socialists from his youth to the Oval Office, everything he has done starts to make perfect sense. His trillion dollar bailouts, Obamacare, and every other program that has resulted in the economic disaster we are in were done intentionally.

All that is needed at this point is for the rest of the economy to begin to collapse for President Obama to declare a state of Martial Law throughout the United States. Once Martial Law has been established, Obama will continue to disregard the US Constitution and establish more government control over every aspect of life. Then before we know what happened, he disbands Congress and assumes complete and absolute control of the government and nation, establishing the first dictatorship in American history.

Will this happen? I sure hope not. Could it happen? So far, everything Obama has done is pointing in that direction.

It’s up to the American people to stop him, if it’s not too late already.
Read more: Is Martial Law and Dictatorship Around the Corner? | Godfather Politics http://godfatherpolitics.com/434/is-marshal-law-and-dictatorship-around-the-corner/#ixzz1UfKhQc3a

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The Stalinist Instincts of Michael Moore



According to an apocryphal joke popular in the Soviet Union in the 70s and the 80s, at one of the first Party Congresses presided by Joseph Stalin in the 1920s some of the delegates arrived carrying a huge poster, “Our cadre are the decisive factor.” Stalin pointed it to Lavrentiy Beria and said, “Take this in account, Comrade Beria.” Beria did, and in the next decade all the revolutionary cadre of the Communist Party were destroyed in staged trials, murders, and long sentences in the concentration camps. The policy came to be known by the saying ascribed to Stalin by Rybakov, “Yest’ chelovek, yest’ problema; nyet cheloveka, nyet problemy” (“There’s a man, there’s a problem; there isn’t a man, there isn’t a problem”).  (Radar - "If there is a man, problem; If there is no man, no problem" would be a more accurate translation)

Or, according to another phrase ascribed to Stalin, “Death solves all problems.”

At the end, the only decisive factor was Stalin himself.

Michael Moore, apparently, has instincts that are not very different from those of Joseph Stalin. He has a solution to the problem with the credit downgrade of the US government by the S & P: “Obama, show some guts, arrest S&P head.” It’s simple: “There’s S&P, there’s a problem; there isn’t S&P, there isn’t a problem.” America’s downgrade is an issue of who the decisive factor is. If the decisive factor is the S&P head, arrest him, and Obama will be the decisive factor. What other solution can there be?


Of course, Moore doesn’t say much more but we can imagine what follows next: A simple arrest won’t suffice. A public trial, forced confession, and then the S&P head against the wall, and . . . boom! For the edification of the others, as Lenin liked to say. Until the final victory of communism.

I’m glad that years ago Moore didn’t advise Bush to “show some guts” and arrest a fat rich lying pig who made false documentaries about America, capitalism, and the health care system of Cuba. We wouldn’t have the cheap entertainment Moore is offering us today.  (Radar - I'd live without it!)

In any case, Moore is only honest to show what future expects America if we allow liberals and “progressives” to control our political system and our courts; under the Democrat Party we can expect nothing less than repressions, persecutions, arrests, staged trials against everyone who disagrees with the government in Washington DC. Left alone, the Leftists soon show their true Stalinist face.

Which is another reason the Democrat Party should be removed from our political life. The earlier, the better.



Read more: The Stalinist Instincts of Michael Moore | Godfather Politics http://godfatherpolitics.com/444/the-stalinist-instincts-of-michael-moore/#ixzz1UfLVSS7t

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What happens in America if the Obmamites get half the people on the government dole?  What happens to ambition and hard work?   As Ayn Rand asserted in "Atlas Shrugged" it is the producers and the workers upon whom society depends and when the people who aspire to greatness decide to quit working the rest of the people will find themselves without resources.

Obama and the Democratic Party take aim at "The Rich" even though pretty much every Nancy Pelosi and Barney Frank and Harry Reid and Al Gore and Barack Obama could buy your house and your car and not even shrug.   A hundred thousand bucks is chump change to Al Gore.   Yet they blame "The Rich" for the state of the economy.

No, "The Rich" are actually the producers, the people who form companies and hire workers and produce goods and services and give you a chance to earn a paycheck.   Class warfare 101, how can any of you fall for this?   The Democrats play the class card and the race card while doing their best to be sure there are lots of poor people who are taught how to remain poor and in their place.   Every ghetto school with broken windows and worn-out teachers who work just to live through another day, every street gang living large in Philadelphia where the cops won't even go, every dumpster in Chicago with another body stuffed into it that no one notices because another gang killing took another poor person away, every squad of shuffling homeless in the back alleyways where you dare not go and do not care to look?   Democrat constituency.  Yes, the dead vote in Chicago and Gary.   The shiftless bummery get paychecks in San Francisco.   Don't dare walk down by the Chicago River at night unless you are a ninja with a couple of 9 mm Lugars in your pockets.

Meanwhile you pompous pontificating Darwinists claim to own science and know better than those who know God, your empty worldview is causing Hell on Earth in England today and possibly America tomorrow.   I hate Darwinism because it not only claims that man is King but also that blind stupid chance designed a world far too complex for man to entirely comprehend it.   Darwinism is a great evil, a pox on humanity, the worst thing to happen to mankind since the Black Plague.    The Plague was spread in part because ignorant people thought washing was dangerous and had no idea that microorganisms existed nor that bedbugs and ticks and fleas could spread deadly diseases.  Ignorance begot death.

Now people like Dawkins and Hawking are the KINGS of IGNORANCE, proclaiming asinine theories as factual and completely missing the boat when viewing the world around them.  Hawking is somehow an aldulterer and a cad even strapped to a machine and living primarily AS a machine.  Dawkins couldn't win a debate with me in a fair fight let alone someone like Ken Ham or Jonathan Sarfati.   Would I debate Richard Dawkins on national television?  Hey, I would ask someone wiser than me like Jonathan or Gary Bates or Ian Juby or Karl Priest but if I was the only choice, you better believe it!   I would kick his butt from here to Corydon!   Because Richard Dawkins thinks himself wiser than God he is a fool.   His stupid signs on the sides of busses driving by as London burns is a very apt picture indeed.  

Darwinism isn't just wrong and ignorant, it is evil.   Evil!  It leads man away from God and towards anarchy and destruction.  I will gladly point any person to God and lead the way step by step if I can.   That is the most important thing I can do.  But second to that is the exposure of the emptiness of Darwinism and the evil that attends the philosophies it has spawned.   Is that clear enough for you?  Just because I am in pain doesn't mean my brain has turned off nor does it mean I have lost my stomach for the battle.  I will fight Darwinism at every hand!

PS - from a Facebook post:

Salary of the US President ................$400,000
Salary of retired US Presidents ..........$180,000
Salary of House/Senate ....................$174,000
Salary of Speaker of the House ..........$223,500
Salary of Majority/Minority Leaders .....$193,400

...Average Salary of Soldier or Marine DEPLOYED IN IRAQ or AFGHANISTAN $38,000
Who's doing their job and who's not?

I think we found where the cuts should be made! If you agree, please POST
 
Actually, if you knew what these politicians were pulling in from lobbyists and crooks?  Dwarfs the official salaries, guaranteed!!!   You have to keep counting down through the administration and their cronies a long time before you can tick off five people who are NOT millionaires!   So when you hear the Dems playing the race card or the class card remember the remarkable hypocrisy thereof and remember where their policies are taking us - it will be kick them out or kiss America goodbye!
 
Now THAT was a rant...

50 comments:

highboy said...

Wow, look at all those socialist policies! Really working well for those europeans I see.

radar said...

Notice this quote?

"The owners of the family furniture store were devastated after seeing the charmed remains of the building that fell victim to the riots last night.

Owner Trevor Reeves said: 'It has just provided (for) my family and the 15 or 20 staff and families that were supported, it's just completely destroyed."

Trevor Reeves is the classic "rich" guy that dumbocrats, er, Democrats claim need to be taxed MORE? Trevor Reeves gave his family and 15-20 other FAMILIES a living, an opportunity to work and provide for their families. We don't need to tax guys like that more and we don't need to villify them, we need to make Washington, DC stay within a budget and spend within their means.

Do you spend ten times what you make? Would you do it if you could get away with it knowing that it was your children and grandchildren would have to pay rather than you? Would you take long vacations and drive fancy cars and live a a huge house perfectly fine with your children and grandchildren slaving away in poverty to make up for it? NO?

That is what the Obama Administration is doing. I am ashamed of the Republicans by folding and not holding the Dem's feet to the fire! In 2012 we need to kick the spending nuts out of office and begin to make the Feds balance the budget and live within their means!

The Obama Administration has accomplished the amazing, destroying the credit rating of the USA?! Guess what, these are the guys who believe in Darwinism, Communism and Global Warming (although they call it Climate Change now because the Earth is actually COOLING, how 'bout that?)!

radar said...

Britain is feeling the pain of having kowtowed to their version of Democrats, the Labour Party and it's policies which are similar to the American Democratic Party. They have raised a couple of generations of spoiled, unprincipled brats who have no morals and no character. This is the direction the USA is heading in. Wake up, people, your country is about to disappear.

radar said...

Oh, and another very telling quote from one of the stories:

"Two girls who took part in Monday night’s riots in Croydon, a town in South London, England, have boasted that they were showing police and “the rich people that we can do what we want.” "

Anonymous said...

And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why one should NEVER mix strong pain medication and blogging.

-Canucklehead.

Anonymous said...

This is hilariously funny!
Is there some contest for funniest blog? This blog should participate!

highboy said...

"And this, ladies and gentlemen, is why one should NEVER mix strong pain medication and blogging.

-Canucklehead."

Guess your clip was full of blanks when you wrote that huh? Its okay, we weren't expecting anything coherent out of you anyway lil fella.

Anonymous said...

"You know, the fact is that ideas have consequences and since we are talking about Naturalistic Materialists and their Atheistic Hedonist Humanistic philosophies, I think we should remember that they were the underpinnings of the Third Reich and the Soviet Union and such liberalism is now destroying England...literally!"

Yet another gaping hole in Radar's knowledge: the meaning of humanism.

radar said...

No, humanism has been given the title of religion and I know it very well, anonymous. Humanism and its several offshoots are the cause of the London riots as observers in London are commenting now.

Canucklehead, my pain didn't cause a bunch of idiots to riot in London. Years of socialism and bad public policy based on humanist principles did. Do we need to inform the readership on the definitions of these terms or can you access a dictionary?

radar said...

"No pecuniary consideration is more urgent, than the regular redemption and discharge of the public debt: on none can delay be more injurious, or an economy of time more valuable. ... Cherish public credit. One method of preserving it is to use it as sparingly as possible: avoiding occasions of expence [and] avoiding likewise the accumulation of debt ... not ungenerously throwing upon posterity the burthen which we ourselves ought to bear." --George Washington, December 3, 1793

England did not follow the advice of the man who led America to freedom and now the President and his party are continuing to idiotic lengths adding to our debt, failing to cut spending and burdening our children and grandchildren with unsustainable debt. Obama still blames everyone else but himself and his party and yet it was the Dems that caused the housing market collapse and it is their spending that has caused us to lose our credit rating and it is their failed policies that threaten to raise a generation of self-involved, lazy, government-supported bums who will riot like the London rioters once their free and unearned money is taken away.

Anonymous said...

That's right, Radar: let it all out; all the hatred, the anger, the frustration...

radar said...

Me? I'm not one of the ones rioting...

I hate Darwinism, atheism, communism, eugenics, socialism, humanism, hedonism and totalitarianism/statism.

I am angry at the elitists who cause these conditions and then pontificate from their ivory towers about it all. The governments of Britain and the USA are causing the economies to collapse and their societies to self-destruct while they live in luxury and feel no personal pain about it all. The Labour Party in Britain and the Democratic Party in the USA are doing heinous things to their nations both economically and philosophically.

It is frustrating to see great civilizations and nations being destroyed from the inside out.

But I don't overturn cars and set them on fire. I point out error and present truth. The truth is that ignorant voters voted for idiotic leaders who have led both countries into the ditch. We need Maggie Thatcher and Ronald Reagan back!

Anonymous said...

"Guess your clip was full of blanks when you wrote that huh? Its okay, we weren't expecting anything coherent out of you anyway lil fella."

Every good comedian needs a good sidekick. I guess you are Radar's?

Anonymous said...

"Me? I'm not one of the ones rioting.../...We need Maggie Thatcher and Ronald Reagan back!"

Hmmmm...right-wing rage...I love it!

highboy said...

Radar, you'll notice the anonymous coward never actually makes an argument or any substantial point, just simply pokes fun, leading to the only conclusion, that the anonymous poster is another one of canuckle's secret internet troll club. He/she/it is undoubtedly giggling in front of their mother's computer in a basement somewhere as they read this.

Oh, and don't bother trying to point to definitions in a dictionary for canucklehead. He'll just tell you Webster was a right wing nut.

Anonymous said...

"He/she/it is undoubtedly giggling in front of their mother's computer in a basement somewhere as they read this."

NOT FUNNY! You used that mommy/basement line twenty times already!

Good comedians should be original, you know;)

Anonymous said...

I'd say referring to hb as a "good sidekick" is a bit of a stretch, Anony, that said, he's definitely WAY better than Lista.

Radar rants,

"Humanism and its several offshoots are the cause of the London riots as observers in London are commenting now."

Are you sure you didn't hit your head on something when that knee went out? Seriously Radar the current "drug cocktail" you are on is not working for you. This is a particularly insane post. Perhaps you should ask that doctor of yours if he recommends that you continue blogging in your current state. You know, to get a professional opinion on the matter. And you should probably show him this post while you're at it.

I mean, it is really disgusting to see the visceral excitement in your writing when tragedy strikes your perceived "enemies". I'm sure you're absolutely wrecked that you didn't get a chance to blame the actions of Norway's christian bomber/shooter on Darwinism, Atheism, etc. Don't worry though, I'm sure that psychotic "womanhonorthyself" chick did a fine job of blambing the Muslims and Obama for it while you were away.

-Canucklehead.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry to do this to you Tim (because aside from the repetitive "mom's basement" jokes - which we've all talked to you about - you really were coming along as one of our more effective trolls), but I'm going to have to kick you out of the club.

You know very well that the first rule of Canuckle's Secret Internet Troll Club is: you don't talk about Canuckle's Secret Internet Troll Club.

-Canucklehead.

highboy said...

"You know very well that the first rule of Canuckle's Secret Internet Troll Club is: you don't talk about Canuckle's Secret Internet Troll Club."

LOL. Touche'.

Chaos Engineer said...

I think you're misunderstanding the roots of the current economic problems.

I do understand that it's tempting to say, "I blame everything on those lazy, shiftless people who live in the inner city and I'm not playing the race card!"

But the unemployment rate has been stuck around 10% for a couple of years now...and that's not even counting the people who can only find part-time work or crappy minimum-wage jobs with no benefits. Even if all the lazy people wanted to work, there aren't any jobs for them! At best, they'd just drive wages down even further.

It's fashionable in some circles to whine about how no one wants to creates jobs because taxes are too high. But taxes are the lowest that they've been in ages; they're way below what they were during the Reagan and Clinton booms. It seems more likely that there aren't enough jobs because there aren't enough customers willing to spend money.

There's an obvious fix for this, but the corporate-controlled media has been hard at work making sure it won't get fixed, so there's no point in talking about it.

highboy said...

"But the unemployment rate has been stuck around 10% for a couple of years now"

Why bother looking for a job if the government is willing to pay unemployment for an endless amount of time? Why bother looking for a job if on top of that your local state welfare office provides medical insurance, cash assistance, food stamps, and even money for a car? I'm not sure what America you're living in, but this economic recession was bound to happen the minute American people handed over their lives to the U.S. government. We went from having programs that provided for needy people to providing generation after generation that is dependant on the government for everything. Look at how we cringe when we even consider doing away with social security. Heaven forbid people keep their pay check and decide for themselves what to do with their money. The collapses happening all over Europe are happening to countries that have been practicing rampant socialism for decades now, including national healthcare. Their collapse is not a coincidence.

Jon Woolf said...

I think you're misunderstanding the roots of the current economic problems.

I think everybody misunderstands the roots of the current economic problems. Probably including me. ;-)

Case in point: The statistics notwithstanding, there are jobs available in the US. What we see in the unemployment numbers is a net figure -- the excess over or under the ordinary 'churn' of people leaving jobs or finding jobs. I see a fair number of Help Wanted ads and signs around town(s), and a steady if somewhat thin stream of them on various job boards and mailing lists. The real problem is getting the people who need jobs together with the jobs that need filling. Wrong skills, wrong location, wrong age, a bad credit report -- almost anything can kill your chance of getting a new job. Even the fact that you don't have a job right now.

In the bigger picture, Rule 15 applies to economics too: Nothing is ever as simple as it seems. Yes, personal federal income tax rates are low in the United States -- so low that something between 40 and 50 percent of all working-age adults don't pay any income tax at all. On the other hand, corporate taxes are very high in the US, relative to other Western countries -- and it's a truism that corporations don't pay taxes, their customers and shareholders do. There are also state and local taxes to consider. All in all, if you live in the US and you get away with less than 40% of your income spent on taxes, you're doing pretty well.

Both parties are partly at fault for the current crisis. Both believe they can solve it. Both are wrong. In the current fiscal year (and for the last three) forty percent of US federal expenditures has been deficit spending. That means that to balance the budget and start paying off the debt, you have to either double federal revenues or halve federal outlays. You think you can double the federal tax burden without really tanking the economy? Think again. You think you can cut spending in half without really tanking the economy? Think again.

Answers? Sorry, ain't got none o' those here. Four years ago, maybe. Today, not so much.

Jon Woolf said...

On a tangent, though, it's funny to see Radar ranting about the England riots being due to Darwin, when proper interpretation of Darwin's theory explains why British socialism led to the riots. (It also explains why Radar's alternative would also fail, for that matter.) The two top rules of natural selection are:

1: when you reward a trait or behavior, you get more of it; when you punish a trait or behavior, you get less of it.

2: Absence of an expected reward is itself a punishment; absence of an expected punishment is itself a reward.

Britain's social system rewards unproductive behavior (with free income and living-benefits) and punishes productive behavior (with very high tax rates). Britain's law-enforcement system fails to punish (in other words, it rewards) criminal behavior by teens and young adults, but (as far as I know) succeeds very well in punishing Britons who attempt to protect themselves against criminals. It shouldn't be any surprise that this would lead to something like the mass rioting of the last four days - where criminal gangs unafraid of the police run rampant, and citizens with no means or will to defend themselves can only stand by and watch their homes and businesses be destroyed.

highboy said...

Jon has pretty much hit the nail on the head on every count. In my state alone, 60% of those who work don't pay tax at all. Those that don't work obviously don't pay tax. Its a myth that fixing the economy would simply require overtaxing the rich, or as Obama and the libs would say "making them pay their fair share". They already pay their own and mostly everyone else's. As far as jobs go, Jon is correct in that there are jobs. But my point stands: our government safety nets have removed all incentive.

For example, if we have a light day where I work, we offer what's called VTO. (Voluntary Time Off) Basically its those who wish to go home early can do so and those who want their hours stay, and with less people it makes the day longer. More hours for those that want them, less for those that don't. In times like that, what has happened over the past 3 years, is that the same people get VTO over and over again. Why? Because they found out that Partial Unemployment paid more every week than what they were bringing home in a full paycheck. Now even Canucklehead can do the math and figure out that the numbers don't add up. Not to mention there is literally NO cap on partial unemployment, no deadline, no timetable. Couple that with Obama increasing the time one can reap the benefits of full unemployment and you can forget all about any kind of decrease in unemployment. Problem is, every unemployment check, every social security check, all at this point is deficit spending.

In any event, this has been coming for a very long time. We can't just keep increasing all financial responsibility of the individual on the U.S. government. Would pulling the rug out all at once tank the economy as Jon suggests? Absolutely, but it has to happen at some point. At some point, Americans need to start managing themselves. Its not going to happen now without some sort of transition that will result unfortunately in more than one horror story, but its the only way out. Continuing to write bad checks and mortgaging our future to China is not the answer, nor is class warfare.

highboy said...

Sorry radar, but Jon did just blow up your comparison. LOL.

Chaos Engineer said...

About taxes...the US has a high corporate tax rate, but there are a lot of loopholes, so the effective tax rate is a lot lower. Meanwhile, people at the low end of the income scale don't pay Federal Income Tax, but they pay a lot of other taxes, including the regressive Social Security tax.

A couple of links. This article at Department of Numbers shows that Tax Revenue as a percentage of GDP has been hovering between 15-20% for years, but there's been a steady decline in corporate tax revenues that's matched by a steady increase in the Social Security and Medicare taxes. (And now Congress is thinking about balancing the budget by cutting Social Security payments?!?! Sheesh!)

The other one is a bit of analysis by Slacktivist speculating on why people spread the wicked lie that half of Americans pay "no taxes at all". He's a devout Christian, so he has a great deal of contempt for liars like that. As an atheist, I try not to be that judgmental, but I do have to agree that those people are real jerks. I don't think it's their fault, though; I blame their parents.

radar said...

No, Jon didn't blow up the comparison. God instituted the law of reaping and sowing long before Charles Darwin drew breath. It is the Bible that teaches that bad behavior gets punished and good behavior gets rewarded. Bible 101 good grief!

Chaos may have his finger on the pulse of the problem (says a guy who gets whacked by the "regressive" social security taxes) in the fact that corporate tax revenues in the USA are going down. But the reason is because of off-shoring and actual physical movement of manufacturing operations from the USA to other countries tied to the Chinese plan to saturate the market with cheap goods and take market share away from US companies within our borders.

Case in point on the problem - US automakers who could not or would not make unions understand the necessity for lowering production costs in order to compete with Japanese and Korean carmakers. Obama bails out Chrysler with our tax dollars but the ludicrous UAW contracts still kill the profits.

American workers remain the most productive in the world, which is why Subaru would build a big plant a few miles south of me and make a reasonable salary and wage structure available to American workers. Those who work at Subaru may not have $250,000 homes and a big motorboat on a trailer but they can afford a good car, a good house and a good honest living for their efforts.

Unions have killed off the old Big Three Automakers because in the days of plenty the Automakers didn't want to shut off the money train by allowing strikes to occur and they let labor have the controls. Now the majority of union autoworkers have lost their jobs or retired (except for the union bosses, natch) and Ford, GM and Chrysler are fighting for their corporate lives against Subaru and Toyota and Volkswagen and the funny thing is those automakers build big factories here in the USA and do just fine.

Jon Woolf is a propagandized individual if I ever knew one. He honestly thought Darwin came up with reward for good behavior and punishment for bad? That is just about the most ignorant thing ever!

As for the medical system, my doctor had to double his rates, switch from electronic transmission of prescriptions to hand-written, join a group of clinics and hospitals and add layers of bureaucracy to the tasks of billing and scheduling just to be ready for the POSSIBILITY that Obamacare will be implemented. If it gets put in completely I think he is going to retire. God help anyone who needs medical care in the future if Obama is reelected or if the courts don't rule Obamacare is unconstitutional (which it is)!

radar said...

Pay attention to what Darwinism really says - the strong overpower and eliminate the weak.

radar said...

How is it that what Jon said blows up anything at all? Businesses withdrew from the USA when Obama was elected because they knew his socialist policies would be job-killers and he would ruin the economy. Once the Dems are tossed out on their butts the investors will come back, the factories will begin to be filled again and the jobless rate will decline.

I do not know nor care what Jon does to make a paycheck but I deal with corporations and often multinational corporations and I know what I am saying. People who could invest in the USA are unsure of doing so because the administration is clueless and irresponsible. Obama spends money like it was worth nothing (and that is a self-fulfilling prophecy) while displaying all the leadership of a Magic 8-Ball. He has no idea what he is doing other than to follow the communist path.

It could well be that Barack Obama is the least-qualified executive this nation has ever had. Take him away from a teleprompter and his speechwriters and he is a gaffe machine! Has he had even one reasonably good idea at all, ever? Does he have any direction other than tax and spend (especially spend)?

Jon Woolf said...

Chaos Engineer: "About taxes...the US has a high corporate tax rate, but there are a lot of loopholes, so the effective tax rate is a lot lower."

For some corporations, yes. For others, not so much. Like individuals, corporations large and small interpret the tax code in the most advantageous way, taking every deduction they legally can, and some they probably shouldn't. The difference is that big corporations can write the tax code to suit themselves, through their influence on lawmakers. Small companies can't do that, so they pay the whole tab. And it's small businessmen who provide the majority of economic growth.

Also please note that I did carefully specify income taxes. Not taxes in general.

In any case, these are niggling details. The bottom line is that there just isn't enough taxable activity to support a doubling of federal tax revenue. You might, if you pick and choose your targets with extreme care, manage a 10-15% increase in revenue, but even that strikes me as extremely unlikely in an economy as weak as ours is right now. The rest of balancing the budget would have to be done with spending cuts. But what do you cut? I know where I would cut -- but I'm honest enough to admit that the results would be exceedingly ugly, rather like amputating a limb to save a life. There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

Radar: "Pay attention to what Darwinism really says - the strong overpower and eliminate the weak."

Nope, try again. I really do hope this new attitude of yours is the result of an overdose of joy-juice, Radar. The idea that your mental state has deteriorated this far in the last couple of months is ... unpleasant.

radar said...

Woolf, your punchless derision is tiresome. It is a sign of a weak mind that cannot come up with anything of substance. Speaking of which, here is a quote that is ironically appropriate to the tenor of the post:

“The fact that we are here today to debate raising America 's debt limit is a sign of leadership failure. It is a sign that the US Government can not pay its own bills. It is a sign that we now depend on ongoing financial assistance from foreign countries to finance our Government's reckless fiscal policies. Increasing America 's debt weakens us domestically and internationally. Leadership means that, "the buck stops here.' Instead, Washington is shifting the burden of bad choices today onto the backs of our children and grandchildren. America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership. Americans deserve better.”


-- Senator Barack H. Obama, March 2006

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Jon, you cannot even begin to equate Darwinism with morality. Darwin begot Hitler and Eugenics and I do not care whether you have the aptitude to understand that or not. I have made the case on this blog already and those who are capable of thinking critically have either agreed or tried at least to an extent to present a coherent argument. You just complain about the source of the information.

Darwinism is in essence the law of tooth and claw. It is written in blood and it is the story of the powerful overcoming the weak and the mean defeating the kind. This is basically the opposite of real morality and thank God is only the result of sin rather than the actual underlying truth.

Truth is that God made a wonderfully and magnificently designed Universe that continues to amaze us even in a fallen state. It is sad that you cannot see it.

radar said...

"1: when you reward a trait or behavior, you get more of it; when you punish a trait or behavior, you get less of it.

2: Absence of an expected reward is itself a punishment; absence of an expected punishment is itself a reward."


Hilarious. These are Christian precepts and have nothing to do with Darwinism. These concepts come straight from the Books of Proverbs, of Exodus and of Leviticus. These are concepts from the Laws of God.

Darwinism is about kill or be killed and supposes that random chance causes advances in organisms. Darwinism doesn't have a place for morality nor for purpose nor for intent. When you begin to talk morality you have stepped upon metaphysical turf. How can you be so ignorant of the basics of the belief system you claim to represent?

Richard Dawkins wrote of the "blind watchmaker" a ridiculous notion that requires one to turn off the common sense portion of one's brain. But even Dawkins hasn't begun to claim Bible principles as belonging to Darwinism. Darwin himself would likely protest.

Jon Woolf said...

"Jon, you cannot even begin to equate Darwinism with morality. "

Why not, when he did so himself? Arguments in support of the evolutionary advantages of a moral system fill many pages of Darwin's second great work on evolutionary theory, The Descent of Man.

As with most creationists, Radar, you would benefit greatly from some time spent learning exactly what the theory you're trying to refute actually says.

Anonymous said...

"It is the Bible that teaches that bad behavior gets punished and good behavior gets rewarded."

Woolf never said that Darwin came up with those, and I very much doubt that they originated with the Bible either. Yes, it "teaches" it because the Bible in so many ways simply reflects human culture.

Anonymous said...

"Darwinism is about kill or be killed and supposes that random chance causes advances in organisms."

Wrong and wrong.

Darwinism is about survival of the fittest. Killing/surviving is part of that, as are effective reproduction strategies.

Darwinism supposes that random chance plus natural selection leads to advances.

It's really not that hard to understand, Radar - why do you insist on spreading misrepresentations? Are you incapable of arguing fairly?

Anonymous whatsit said...

"These are Christian precepts and have nothing to do with Darwinism."

They are basic psychological principles and have nothing to do with God's laws. If they are mentioned in the Bible, then only because they are clearly observable in human beings.

"These concepts come straight from the Books of Proverbs, of Exodus and of Leviticus. These are concepts from the Laws of God."

Which verses do you have in mind?

radar said...

""Darwinism is about kill or be killed and supposes that random chance causes advances in organisms."

Wrong and wrong.

Darwinism is about survival of the fittest. Killing/surviving is part of that, as are effective reproduction strategies.

Darwinism supposes that random chance plus natural selection leads to advances.

It's really not that hard to understand, Radar - why do you insist on spreading misrepresentations? Are you incapable of arguing fairly?"


No, you are incapable of thinking logically. Natural selection is a design feature of the designed organism and random chance never designs anything. Isn't it odd that we have never observed one kind of organism evolve into another? No, it isn't because it cannot happen. Besides, you have no way to get organisms in the first place since Darwinism cannot account for the creation of life.

So Darwinism is never observed to actually happen, while in the real world we see that random actions are deleterious because of the Laws of Thermodynamics which you all conveniently either twist or ignore. Without outside directed energy and purpose every system goes downhill. A pile of wood and brick will become dust unless man designs and builds a building from it. You want people to think the building builds itself and that is a great folly.

radar said...

Which verses do I have in mind? You would have to read Exodus and Leviticus and Proverbs before I can discuss it with you with any intelligence. But I will give you an easy one because these principles are found throughout the Bible. Galatians chapter six:

"7 Do not be deceived, God is not mocked ; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap. 8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. 9 Let us not lose heart in doing good, for in due time we will reap if we do not grow weary."

In other words, if you do good you will tend to receive the rewards of your works. If you do evil you will tend to get the punishment.

Work and get paid.

Steal and get caught and imprisoned.

Trust Christ and be forgiven.

Trust in yourself and be judged by God on your own merits.

This is Biblical principle. Darwinism is not so. Darwinism would tell you to take if you are strong enough, kill if you can get away with it, do whatever you want to do if you are big enough and smart enough and strong enough without any thought to right or wrong. Darwinism has no provisions for right and wrong. Just a matter of whether or not you can overpower the next guy or not, if you can Darwinism says do it and take all his stuff.

Anonymous said...

Man, Radar, it's just so weird that you consistently brag about how smart you are and yet, at the same time put your self out there as being so ridiculously stupid. Take this for example,

"Isn't it odd that we have never observed one kind of organism evolve into another? No, it isn't because it cannot happen. Besides, you have no way to get organisms in the first place since Darwinism cannot account for the creation of life."

What I find odd is that you still don't seem to understand that your consistent mischaracterizing of the opposing arguments in this debate, makes you look like a total idiot. I've been visiting this blog for years now, and I can tell you that the only people that talk about observing "one kind of organism evolve into another" is you and other creationists (See Ray Comfort's laughable Crocoduck argument). And I also know that you have been told on countless occasions by the very people that engage in debates on the topic of "Darwinism" with you, that the theory of evolution has nothing all to do with abiogenesis. The Catholic Church endorses evolution. I'm sure they think they've got a good handle on the whole "how life began" question and it wouldn't be too far from yours. Why can't you grasp these fairly simple concepts, Radar?

In other words, how can you act like such a demonstrable moron and be a self proclaimed genius at the same time? I just don't get it.

On the other hand, I guess there's always the "lying for Jesus" alternative.

-Canucklhead.

radar said...

Canucklehead,

If I am the genius and you are the moron, then my arguments won't make sense to you and you'll think I am the moron. Sadly, there is nothing I can do to fix Canucklehead.

BTW, a large number of Catholics are very unhappy with any official agreement by the church with any aspect of Darwinism. But I am not a Catholic so that is not relevant to me.

So let me simplify it for you. Macroevolution is never observed and therefore no one should believe in it. Lump it in with the Easter Bunny and Leprechauns as mythology. There is no Macroevolution. There is no hope for abiogensis or spontaneous generation or chemical evolution or whatever new tag you want to slap on that old dead carcass. Capiche?

highboy said...

Radar you're arguing against evolution with someone who himself admitted isn't equipped intellectually to argue for evolution.

Anonymous said...

"Radar you're arguing against evolution with someone who himself admitted isn't equipped intellectually to argue for evolution."

Well, since Radar has consistently proven that he isn't equipped intellectually to argue against evolution that about evens it out...

radar said...

AH, yes, empty Darwinist derision instead of evidence. You are not even capable of arguing the points at all. Respond to the evidence or just look lame and stupid.

Anonymous said...

Why attempt serious discussion on what's clearly a comedy blog?

Anonymous said...

"AH, yes, empty Darwinist derision instead of evidence. You are not even capable of arguing the points at all. Respond to the evidence or just look lame and stupid."

This from the guy who said "So let me simplify it for you. Macroevolution is never observed and therefore no one should believe in it. Lump it in with the Easter Bunny and Leprechauns as mythology. There is no Macroevolution. There is no hope for abiogensis or spontaneous generation or chemical evolution or whatever new tag you want to slap on that old dead carcass. Capiche?"

Macroevolution having occurred is observed aplenty in the fossil record. Inexplicable to YECs, perfectly explained by the current scientific consensus.

None of your macho posturing and frustrated bully rants can change that. Address the evidence if you can.

radar said...

Address the evidence? I have shown that the fossil record is a result of the Noahic Flood and has no application to Darwinism at all. Besides that you cannot "observe" a process from the past, you can only make suppositions based on evidence. Macroevolution has never been observed but the preservation of kind and variation within kind are observed every day. You lose. Find a dictionary, acquaint yourself with the definition of "observe" and then admit your mistake or else more likely just silently slink away.

radar said...

To borrow a comment from James Delingpole's blog on the slight punishment to be dealt to the hooligans who burned down buildings and attacked and robbed citizens:

"colin powis says:

August 14, 2011 at 4:21 pm

As a British citizen who has lived many years in the US it’s very sobering to come back to my homeland and see the radical changes that have taken place over the last 25 years , and how liberalism , the welfare state and death of religion has effected post modern Britain….Americans should take a long hard look at the UK and welcome to Obamaland, as it’s an ironic ”back to the future” of Stanley Kubrick​’s futuristic masterpeace of the CLOCKWORK ORANGE …an increasingly lawless , nihilistic world of drunkeness , debauchery , fatherless children and moronic celebrity worshiping TV culture ….a kinda high tech ignorance of mobile phones , toxic TV and internet , without the fear of God or the law."

Anonymous said...

You lose again, Radar.

highboy said...

Apparently just saying "you lose" and "this blog is funny" is about as deep as these conversations with anonymous posters are going to go radar.

Anonymous said...

Why have 'deep conversations' on what's clearly a comedy blog?