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Monday, August 08, 2011

The Modern American Culture - Ignorance, Censorship, Superstition and Selfishness

Many physical and emotional barriers stood between me and blogging in the last few days.   I was glad to see even Jonathan Sarfati step into the commenting fray to slice and dice up one of the more verbose Darwinists and there is the ever-steady LISTA who slowly and surely studies matters of philosophy and science line upon line, refusing to be hurried by anyone.    The sheer amount of utter empty Darwinist ranting that has taken place in my absence is impressive in its own negative and pathetic way.   It is hard to think of anything more unscientific than Darwinism and my absence from the blog for awhile was the equivalent of stepping back to look carefully at a painting on the wall to ensure it is hung straight and in keeping with the "feel" of the room.

For those who care, my knee has such a dramatically torn and displaced meniscus that it sticks out in front and on the side of the knee, rubbing against the MCL and having abandoned it's task of padding the interior of the structure.  That is the worst of five different injuries and syndromes that my right knee claims and since that leg was once colonized by MRSA and is the leg that displays most of the symptoms of the nerve damage from a back injury, an operation is somewhat problematic but a couple of weeks of constant pain plus the idea that getting up from a chair or climbing a few stairs requires great effort and careful planning to avoid a fall or a sharp increase in pain has taught me that the status quo is not acceptable.   Not THAT Status Quo, although if your name is Bob Axelberg you and I both know the back story to this song...like, forty years ago.
This was a live performance from 1968...



So I am stepping back and looking at the blog from a bit farther back.    This is what I see...

First, I can give out this information shared with me by one of my mentors, the estimable Charles Wood.   This tells you why Obamacare is guaranteed depression-in-a-can and why Democratic thought is not in any way related to the word, "Democratic."    They are the Socialist Party now, why not just admit it?

FIVE ESSENTIAL STATEMENTS:
This was passed along to me by a college classmate. It makes such good sense and is really food for thought:
1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity, by legislating the wealth out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work, because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.

Yeah, that kind of summarizes the problem with the underlying philosophy of the Obama Administration and the Democrats in general.   In my town there are two former Democrats who switched to Republican after already winning office because, as one of them said, "My party left me."   Obama, whose birth certificate is obviously faked, who has a Connecticut social security number that cannot be his and whose grades and qualifications to even enter Harvard are shaky has been a complete disaster as President because he doesn't know how to run an ice cream stand and his philosophies are failed old stuff left over from Lenin and Guevera.   He has managed to make Jimmy Carter look reasonably good by comparison I guess.   Anyway, statement number 5 is EXACTLY what happened to the Soviet Union.   You really want to do second verse, same as the first????


Now let me point out that real science doesn't summarily dismiss what has been accepted as law or at the very least theory that has always been supported by evidence without findings that falsify the law or theory.   The Law of Biogenesis has never been disproved despite constant attacks from the Darwinist camp for many generations.   What Louis Pasteur is credited for finally establishing to the satisfaction of the entire scientific community on the basis of evidence is that not even the simplest of organisms can spontaneously arise from matter but only as a result of the reproductive process of a like organism(s).  Life comes only from life.   Using the guise of a new term, Chemical Evolution, Darwinists have pretended there is any reason at all to dismiss Biogenesis and ignored all the evidence that shows us that life cannot form from inanimate materials.

Basic chemistry teaches us that the building blocks of life cannot last "in the wild" even if they could form, for chemical reactions will change and/or destroy them before they can begin to assemble themselves into a living thing.   In fact, think on that for a minute.  Can life assemble itself?  Do cars build themselves, do houses, do oil paintings?   Of course not, you say, and yet a living cell is far more complex and has more information and components than the largest factory in your nearest city.   How in the world does anyone believe such nonsense?   It is the kind of thinking that would have been thoroughly rejected in the pre-Darwin-and-Marx-and Malthus world.   Had Science known the complexity of the cell and of the existence of DNA in the 19th Century then Darwinism never would have gained a foothold among scientists.   Darwinism was accepted without much evidence and then, when the evidence poured in to falsify it the metaphysical needs of scientists caused them to blind themselves to the truth.

Darwinists lament the fact that half of the population of the USA still doubts evolution and believes that God at the very least was Creator of the Universe.   It is no surprise to me since the average man and woman is most concerned about their own wants and needs and have applied common sense and tradition to what was taught in government schools.   You see, there is a basic nonsensical thread running through the entirety of Darwinism, which at the root declares that nothing exploded and made everything.   When I see some derf saying that it was proven in court that ID is a "wedge" to get creationism into the classroom, I am not sure whether to call him a liar or an idiot.   Creationism belongs in schools and so does ID because they are origins theories which are supported by evidence and more evidence than Darwinism has.  Darwinism is almost entirely hot air and lies and hoopla.   "Arsenic Bacteria" was a flat lie.   I presented evidence on this blog to prove it.   If you say otherwise you are either a fool or a liar or both.   End of story and yes, I will stand on that with the evidence to prove it.    Anyone who thinks the Discovery Institute is a Creationist organization needs to check the roster of members, which includes Jews and Islamics and non-religious scientists along with Christians and Theists.  David Berlinski, for instance, is a non-practicing Jew who worships logic and intellect if he worships at all.

Yes, the common man would probably have rejected Darwinism entirely and hooted all Darwinists out of schools and the media and academia if it were not for four important factors:

Ignorance

When most students go to classes, they learn what they are taught or at least what they expect to find on the tests.  They do the homework, they get their grades, they pass their classes and they move on to the next grade, the next school and eventually a degree or two or three.  In this postwar world of two-income families and government-controlled schools parents have abdicated their position as teachers of their own children.   The American parent expects school to be both tutor and babysitter for nine months out of the year while paying little attention to the process unless there are grade or behavioral problems.   Some parents get more involved in the process than others and certainly there is a percentage of them who stay on top of everything but these are not the majority.  Who is teaching your children their core values and beliefs and who is reviewing what they are taught in school?   Who among you teach your children to think both critically and for themselves?   How many of you just let school do what it does and as long as the kid doesn't steal your money or bring the cops to your door you let them watch what they want on TV, go where they will on the internet and you just pay the bills and try to get ahead?

Another part of the Ignorance equation is apathy, then, as so many parents ignore what their kids actually learn or believe until they have become teenagers and express their belief systems in what can often be confrontational and rebellious ways.   Those of you who mail in the early years get what you deserve - self-centered rebellious children who do not respect their self-centered and apathetic parents!

There is also the systemic spread of ignorance that has been the result of the Democratic Party platform that has formed and promoted the welfare society, especially within big cities.   We now have ghetto areas in every large city, populated primarily by minorities who in large part depend upon government dole for their subsistence.   Mothers are rewarded for having children outside of marriage and fathers are therefore encouraged to stay out of the lives of their children.   Kids grow up with a two-pronged plan of attack that consists of an expectation that the government owes them a living plus the idea of having an "angle" to make money on the side and therefore be a success within the community.   Gangsters and gamblers and con men are the heroes of the inner cities.   Yes, sure, sometimes athletes and musicians and actors come out of these environs but they are the exception rather than the rule.   The poor are taught to expect wealth redistribution without the necessity of work.   Therefore exceptionalism and high performance are not expected and the majority of inner-city kids "graduate/are run through" high school without being able to read and write coherently.  While buffoons like Jesse Jackson, Jr. and Al Sharpton play the race card, their politics and the politics of their cohorts guarantee that millions of people of color will be poor and without hope.

Censorship

Like bullies who seek out the weak while avoiding confrontation, the Darwinist community is dedicated to the suppression of evidence that supports Intelligent Design and Creationism as a 24/7 task.  The NCSE is nothing more than a censorship society.   Talkorigins is a site that gives lame and often long-falsified "answers" to questions about origins with little or no regard to truth as long as the people will buy it.   Stephen Hawking's latest book is a testimony to a great brain gone terribly wrong, a terribly illogical treatise attempting to give credit to forces associated with a material Universe being the creative force of said Universe!   Every time Richard Dawkins publishes another book pontificating on the glories of Darwinism, Jonathan Sarfati then writes a book that tears Dawkin's arguments apart and leaves him standing upon air.   Oh, what I would give to see an hour-long debate between Sarfati and Dawkins, or maybe PZ Myers or Michael Ruse!   Televise that thing nationally and see the house of Darwinist cards begin to fall everywhere at once!

Superstition

Really, Darwinism and Communism and Socialism and Econuttery are all echoes of a pagan past.   The worship of "Mother Earth", the emphasis on the value of obscure sub-species of animals over the welfare of human beings (witness the terrible flooding this summer because econuts changed the Army Corps of Engineers plans from flood control to animal welfare) or the State of California refusing to send water to the Salinas Valley farmers for fear of harming a stupid little fish!   People, seriously, there are millions of varieties of fishes!   If you look carefully at the teaching of Darwinism you see that Darwinists "worship" themselves and living creatures and the material world and pretty much anything BUT GOD.

The television industry cranks out all these shows about people with psychic powers and vampires and witches and ghosts and pursuers of ghosts and witches and vampires.   There are "special" people with amazing powers to see the future or go back in time.   I mean it is like someone took a deck of tarot cards and a crystal ball and put it in a mixer with some standard science fiction stories lines and begin pouring out supernatural shakes as television series...as long as the supernatural isn't actually the One Supernatural God.   They avoid God like the plague!

God is not unscientific.  Belief in the Creator was the backbone of civilization and upon Biblical principles the laws of England and America were founded.   The Judeo-Christian ethic still remains the foundation of Western Civilization even as the ungodly attack every aspect of God and faith and creation no matter what the evidence.   To believe in God is certainly as scientific is to believe in no God and frankly modern science would not have been formed without those who believed in a Logical Creator.

Selfishness


Now let us talk about human nature.   As children we seek to grow up and cast off the leadership of our parents when we hit adolescence although we may also have a great relationship with our parents.   It is innate within mankind to make the decisions and be the judge and jury of life.   We are born as sinners, both knowing right and wrong and being able to do as we choose.   Our choices tend to be selfish and sometimes we hurt others.   We may do things that are not acceptable to the majority of others but the natural man chafes at the concept of being accountable to anyone or being judged.   That is human nature.

We are all human and we are all born with this nature.   But within every man and woman is also what has been called a "God-shaped hole" in our hearts, intrinsic to our nature, an inner belief that God is and that He is responsible for existence.   Some of us seek to fill that hole and keep trying different metaphysical blocks until the triangular hole is filled with that triangle that is God.   No round pegs nor square ones will do.  For those who seek to find God, He will be found.  I know this to be true because I went out to find Him while deliberately excluding Jesus Christ from the possibilities and yet Christ would not give up on me as long as there was any place within me that still wanted truth.   Although I surrounded myself with secular education and myriad philosophies and drugs and drink and hedonistic pleasures there was yet a place within me that wondered and that is where God grabbed me and pulled me from death into life.


Many scientists give lip service to Darwinism and don't think all that much about the subject because it has nothing to do with their studies and research.   They know they can get grant money by working a Darwinist paragraph into the abstracts they produce and the proposals they send out but, when the real work is done, Darwin may as well be Huckleberry Finn.   These are the folks who would probably be relieved to see Darwinism fall, as they could quit having to incorporate the idea into the meat of their research goals and they could simply express their simple desire to study and learn and test and discover unhindered by metaphysical concerns.

But there are so many dedicated Darwinists, a blight on society and a drag on learning, they are the two-ton barnacles on the Ship of State that hinder us from obtaining power and growing more crops with their econuttery and the completely faked concept of global warming disasters.   Al Gore is far too big to be Chicken Little but in fact the sky is not falling now any more than it did a hundred years ago.  They are the Himalayas of Humbug that stand in the way of a better understanding of the world of organisms and the design of the Solar System and the intricacies of caring for and healing the human body.

Darwinists are a hindrance to science and a drag on the resources of the scientific community and they are the worst possible offenders of the very thing they accuse creationists of doing - bringing religion into science.   Darwinism is a religion, it is an amalgam of atheism and humanism and naturalism that exists for the sake of selfishness and in defiance of the Creator God.   God made this Universe and all that is in it, including you and me.   The very nature of organisms cries out to each one of you and they are shouting "design" and "intent" and "information" and "brilliance" while Darwinists blithely credit pure dumb chance for the existence of every star and nebula and planet and moon and system and law and force and creature and the soul and spirit and emotions and the mind and sentience of mankind.    This is not simply wrong, it is evil, for those who know enough to realize the paucity of Darwinist evidence are among the most strident supporters of the same.   Tell the biggest lie and shout the loudest and seek to thereby win the day. 

You Darwinists have the media and the government agencies and the academics and the elites on your side.  With all that on your side you are still losing ground.  Why?   Because we have the most important thing of all - the truth.    We have the evidence and the evidence is not only on the side of creationism it is in fact overwhelming.   You simply have to have the desire to know what the truth is and I will do my best to point you in the right direction. 

Today's evidence is a DVD produced by Spike Psarris, a former member of the Aerospace industry and the guy who has put up this website...

For fifteen bucks at the online store you can get an overview of things we have learned about the Solar System that falsify Darwinism.   You will see and hear about moons that are continually spewing volcanoes, moons that are virtually free of craters and moons that are covered with so many of them it puzzles everybody.   You will find out about Planetary orbits and rotations and magnetic fields and problems with mass and temperature and all sorts of other facts gleaned from various space probes that show us that the Solar System and the Earth are actually very young and surely only thousands rather than millions or billions of years old.   You will discover that the long-age theories of Evolution are broken promises foundered on the rocks of actual evidence.   I dare you to watch this video and continue to believe that the Earth and Sun and the Solar System are billions of years old.   

One little hint?   Three different Moon landings included the planting of laser reflectors on different portions of the visible lunar surface so that we could bounce a laser beam from Earth to Moon and back and measure precisely how far away the Moon is from the Earth and thereby measure the speed at which the Moon is receding away from the Earth.   You see, the tides produced by the Moon help "push" the Moon away from Earth incrementally.   By studying this process we can deduce that the Moon would have been sitting on the surface of the Earth 1.5 billion years ago (naturally once it got close it would have been drawn in and a horrific collision would have ensued much earlier)!    Therefore the Moon cannot be 3 to 5 billion years old.

The longest continuous measurement mankind has made of a force that I know of is the magnetic field of the Earth.   If these measurements are accurate, the Earth cannot be more than 20,000 years old.   Does that surprise you?  Dating methods in general do not attempt to consider the worldwide global flood nor do secular scientists and yet catastrophism is replacing uniformitarianism in the world of geology.   Right now the Darwinist narrative requires untold numbers of "local" floods to perform the work of the one big flood that actually did take place.   All of the dating methods that do not account for the remarkable world-wide catastrophic flood and the ice age/mudrock era that followed are therefore fatally flawed and give ridiculous dates not only for items of unknown age but often will produce wildly inaccurate dates for items that are known to be young.   The same scientists who think that the Grand Canyon was formed over millions of years will completely ignore the canyons formed after the Mt. St. Helens eruption even though the event was like a laboratory experiment to clue scientists into the kinds of events that would create the Grand Canyon.   Only fast flooding and massive water flows could account for the Grand Canyon, not long ages of wandering rivers.   That marvel required at least two catastrophic events to be formed and quite possibly more than two.   There are competing theories amongst creationist geologists that are being bandied about and not one of them is as preposterous as the long age fairy tales you'll be told in school.  

So I am going to begin lobbing these mortar shells into the Darwin camp.   If yo uavail yourself of the resources I present to you, you will have difficulty hanging on to Darwinism without being untrue to yourself and your self-respect.   Seriously.   If you care and you want to know the truth, I am going to be bringing it to you bite by bite.   Strap up, people!!!

29 comments:

Embriette said...

Good to see you back, Radar. Take care of that knee!

Hawkeye® said...

Radar,

Another good article. God Bless your physical ailments. Be careful lobbing those mortar shells.

(:D) Best regards...

Jon Woolf said...

[sigh]

[shakes head sadly]

I hope you remembered to charge those shells.

The longest continuous measurement mankind has made of a force that I know of is the magnetic field of the Earth. If these measurements are accurate, the Earth cannot be more than 20,000 years old.

If current measurements of the Dow Jones Industrial Average are accurate, it was over a million at the beginning of the year, and in less than a month it will be in negative numbers.

Dating methods in general do not attempt to consider the worldwide global flood

Because it never happened.

I find it distasteful to kick a wounded man, but ... really, Radar. After a three-week layoff, I was hoping for something better from you. An attempt to answer some of the questions posed to you, or at least an attempt to develop some more interesting arguments. Instead, all you can offer is this worn-out mishmash? Just once, can't you offer something that shows some knowledge of the subject, and requires a little research to counter? Just once? Please?

Anonymous said...

Oh, man. Radar says,

"Obama, whose birth certificate is obviously faked..."

And you wonder why you are considered to be a right wing nut, and can't figure out why nobody listens to you. Perhaps the simple answer is the correct one, in this case, and you're just a bit of a racist. I mean why else would you continue to lie about this.

Oh and it sure is nice of the "estimable Charles Wood" to convince you to argue against your best interests. You have admitted to us in the past that you face bankruptcy over your mounting medical bills and yet you argue against a system that works perfectly fine in most other countries. Are you saying that you guys aren't smart enough to figure it out? Because that doesn't sound like the Radar I know.

Back to Mr. Wood, I mean, do you really believe that the kind of money being paid to executives in the US and elsewhere is actually commensurate to work being done by these individuals? Do those people really work 500 to 1000 times harder than their employees? IMO, you guys are completely screwed until you let go of this ridiculous position that the money earned by the wealthiest individuals in your country has more to do with "hard work" than having money and privilege in the first place.

-Canucklehead.

Anonymous said...

"I was hoping for something better from you."

Seriously?

May I ask why?

Anonymous said...

"Obama, whose birth certificate is obviously faked..."

How do you figure that? Even the Freepers debunked that one.

Jon Woolf said...

"May I ask why?"

Not sure. Wishful thinking, I suppose. I only know I did not expect to see Radar try to reinvent himself as some sort of latter-day Jonathan Edwards, thundering forth a modernized riff on "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" as if that was somehow an effective argument against well-founded science like evolutionary theory.

I look back at the first few posts I saw here, right after I found this blog, and I'm a little bit amazed. The decay is palpable, and not at all pleasant to watch.

radar said...

I admit I am surprised Jon Woolf still posts after Sarfati sliced and diced you.

Canucklehead reveals himself as a believer in weath redistribution, a failed concept which is destroying the USA right now. Did you not read the Charles Wood quote? Or are you incapable of understanding? Why do you think the USA has lost it's top financial rating? It is because a socialist as President is being so incompetent and idiotic. No one in their right mind has a 500 dollar paycheck every week and spends 2,000 dollars a week and expects success and yet that is what Obama does.

Do I need to make a blogpost to prove to you Obama's birth certificate is faked? Really?

Oh, and I have an idea for you. You be me a few years back. Have a daughter who had a half-million dollars in medical bills piled up during her first four months of life and manage to carry on anyway. Then go through two major accidents (as a single father of four not getting child support from the mother), one of which destroyed his left should and the other one almost made him a paraplegic and the lingering damage to the right leg caused his company to fire him illegally. Twice. The first time I fought them and won the verdict and got my back pay and benefits. THe second time they trumped up evidence, erased my call-ins when I was going to visit my daughter in the ICU in Chicago (back surgery) and I was left with no income and four kids. SO I filed chapter 13. That means you pay most or all of your creditors back in installments.

What would you have done, abandoned your children? Gone on the government dole? I went back to college on student loans, paid off the bankruptcy, kept a roof over my kid's heads and kept them fed. I got a job in a new industry and became a success. So don't wave bankruptcy in my face with ignorance. I fought back against disaster and won.

radar said...

Shoulder, not should. It was broken collarbone, class three separation (that means your shoulder is hanging down a few inches by some tendons and muscles with all bones broken and shoulder completely out of the broken joint). Yeah, that hurt and the insurance company tried to make the process go long so I would be desperate to settle after being struck and T-boned by a woman who was inebriated, speeding and driving with her lights off. But I didn't sue her even though I could have taken her for everything she had. I just made the insurance company cough up their limits on the accident.

So having a ripped-up knee is no biggie and I am not falling apart. Rather I am going directly point-by-point against the ignorant, superstitious, lying Darwinists. Several years of posts and they still ask the same stupid questions and make the same inane comments so I figure, why not make simple and direct posts pointing people to evidence? Why not give people the resources to study for themselves?

You see, the Woolfs of this world are probably like the Pharoah of Egypt at the time Moses and Aaron led the Children of Israel away and out of his grasp. He hardened his heart to the point that God made it permanent. Pharoah lost his entire horse-drawn chariot army in the Red Sea, he lost his first-born, his people suffered calamities and casualties as a direct result of his disobedience and recalcitrance.

radar said...

Paul had a terrible problem with his eyes that caused him to need a scribe to write down his words sent out to churches around the world. Peter and the other apostles were all caught and killed by Christian-haters except for John who was allowed to live out his life (as Jesus predicted).

Christians can and will suffer probems and tribulations. So will non-Christians. God may or may not intervene in my life miraculously to help me but I will follow him either/or. His Word tells me that all things work together for good to those who love God and are called for His purposes. When things go well I thank God for blessing me. When things go badly I pray for help but I also look for the lesson to build character and resolve.

This knee pain is so bad I must drug myself to sleep and I cannot hardly wait for surgery. Meanwhile I work as I can and rest as needed while waiting.

I have from time to time offered the Gospel to the naysayers who believe in fairy tales such as Jon Woolf. He thinks everything came from nothing and both information and design just happened by chance. He thinks...well, he is brainwashed so thinks is uncertain. He parrots the things he has been taught. I see no sign he actually has learned anything at all after being presented with reams of information that undercuts his core belief system. I don't think Jon will abandon his naturalistic materialism despite the evidence because it is his religion.

The sad thing is so many religious zealots like Canucklehead and Woolf do not even realize they are defending a religion rather than science. They cannot grasp the magnitude of their error! As the curator of the Holocaust museum Ben Stein meets in the movie "Expelled" commented, she did not think Hitler and his minions were crazy but rather that they knew what they were doing. In fact in view of their belief in Darwinism and Eugenics many of them believed they were doing something good! She believed they were evil but she refused to judge them, saying that God would judge them and it was up to Him to tell them their error. Hitler and his cronies know better now but too late for them to escape their eternal punishment.

Those of you who swallow Darwin are like the men who Jesus said, "Swallow a camel and gag at a gnat." You see a world filled with design and information and you decide it *poofed* into existence rather than acknowledge God. God has made it so clear that He is and He made all things.

Why do you think there is such a thing as an Australian Brush Turkey that makes sophisticated nests that have exact temperatures and humidity kept that way by the father bird, something no man could do using sticks and dirt? Why do you suppose something as preposterous as a Duckbill Platypus exists? How do birds navigate and fly to breeding grounds that are too far for them to go without flying in exact formations with precise interplay without having flown there before? How do bees calculate and dance a message to their cohorts giving precise directions to a food source? How does the giraffe take a drink without his brain exploding? How does he rapidly raise his head without passing out from lack of oxygenated blood?

God made creatures so intricate and marvelous that we could, as we grew in knowledge, copy their designs and use them for our benefit. Yet so many do not give God credit. They prefer to believe random chance is smarter than they are and is capable of defying Thermodynamics and Biogenesis and common sense. You who doubt God and trust in chance are amazing to me. When I was a child I had an excuse. When I became a man and quit living only for myself and began to think upon things I discovered God and then realized Darwinism was a pathetic and illogical hodge-podge of fairy tales and hogwash.

Anonymous said...

Radar says,

"Do I need to make a blogpost to prove to you Obama's birth certificate is faked? Really?"

Not unless you want to further embarrass yourself, I guess, but who am I to stop you.

"What would (I) have done" if I were in your shoes?

Well first off, if I was still in Canada, I would have focused on getting better. That's it. Bankruptcies due to medical expenses simply don't exist here (not to mention that our health care system generates better outcomes than yours). Now if I was I was in the US, I probably would have realized what a messed up system you have down there and started doing whatever I could to attempt fix the issue.

Your country is being looted due to republican lead deregulation (see your banking industry), oil industry, etc., not to mention the fact that the wealthy can buy congress through popagandizing fools like you into arguing against their own best interests. Money in politics is the core of all your troubles, IMO. But it's not just my opinion. Check out what Dylan Ratigan had to say recently on his show,

www(DOT)msnbc(DOT)msn(DOT)com/id/21134540/vp/44079837#44079837

You are being manipulated Radar, and the sooner you realize it the better. "Wealth redistribution"?? Seriously? If you support taxation on any level, then you too believe in "wealth redistribution"? Are you saying that you don't think anyone should pay taxes? Personally, I believe, like most of your fellow Americans, that the wealthy (and corporations) in the US pay far to little in taxes, and that your government spends a fortune on war. Don't believe me?

politicalticker(DOT)blogs(DOT)cnn(DOT)com/2011/08/10/new-cnn-poll-majority-want-tax-increase-for-wealthy-and-deep-spending-cuts/?hpt=hp_t1

So you're now calling Jon and I "religious zealots"? OMG, that is hilarious. Do you even know what those words mean? You're the biblical litteralist here, buddy. Not us. And your strawman characterization of Jon's arguments as thinking "everything came from nothing and both information and design just happened by chance", yet again reveals you to be just another creationist liar.

And are you talking about Hitler, the christian, who banned books on evolution? That Hitler?

And you decide to conclude with a Gish Gallop, chock full of arguments from incredulity (that I'm positive includes many things that have been answered by science, only you're too intellectually dishonest to look it up) ends with the "giraffe neck"? Honestly? I mean this has even been explained to you on this blog. Anyway here it is again, just in case you missed it

www(DOT)talkorigins(DOT)org/indexcc/CB/CB325.html

-Canucklehead.

Oh and this kind of thinking is soooo freaking messed up,

"When things go well I thank God for blessing me. When things go badly I pray for help but I also look for the lesson to build character and resolve."

Man, I've said it before, but this god of yours sure is a Jerk. The fact that you believe that god intervenes in your life, i.e. "grants you blessings", yet sits on his hands while children the world over are being sexually abused by people supposedly dedicated to him (see every country the catholic church has touched), is merely one small example of how truly offensive your thinking is. What is it that makes you think you are so special?

highboy said...

"You have admitted to us in the past that you face bankruptcy over your mounting medical bills and yet you argue against a system that works perfectly fine in most other countries"

A flat out false statement. Not shocking coming from Canucklehead. Your healthcare system is an abysmal failure and that same system fails even more in places like Britain.

"http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2009/07/28/statistics-show-canada-healthcare-is-inferior-to-american-system"

I'm sure you'll attempt your usual cop out of "that's a right wing source" to avoid having to deal with the reality of the situation but facts are facts, and the numbers were compiled by The Frazier Institute, a Canadian source.

"IMO, you guys are completely screwed until you let go of this ridiculous position that the money earned by the wealthiest individuals in your country has more to do with "hard work" than having money and privilege in the first place."

The key there is "IMO", which is a horribly uneducated opinion based on absolutely no verifiable facts whatsoever. Meanwhile socialist policies are destroying economies across the globe. Or are Greece, Ireland, and Spain all these great capitalist beacons? Or are you Jedi Mind powers giving you all the personal info on the work habits of wealthy Americans?

"Well first off, if I was still in Canada, I would have focused on getting better."

By waiting for months and possibly even years before receiving treatment.

"Bankruptcies due to medical expenses simply don't exist here"

that's why your country's broke. I'm sure the enormous taxes being paid into the healthcare system have nothing to do with that though. LOL.

"Check out what Dylan Ratigan had to say recently on his show"

now you've definitely eliminated any ability you had to factually claim "biased source" in any debate on this blog. Anyone quoting anybody on msnbc who expects to be taken seriously need a CAT scan. Maybe if we schedule you for one now in Canada you'll be able to get in before Christmas.

"Man, I've said it before, but this god of yours sure is a Jerk. The fact that you believe that god intervenes in your life, i.e. "grants you blessings", yet sits on his hands while children the world over are being sexually abused by people supposedly dedicated to him (see every country the catholic church has touched), is merely one small example of how truly offensive your thinking is. What is it that makes you think you are so special?"

And that is where your mind-boggling ignorance really hits its stride. This idea that a loving God is only a loving God if He shelters and protects and blesses everyone from birth to death regardless of human decision in behavior is so childish and weak I can't believe I just typed an answer.

Anonymous said...

Oh boy, the kids are quarreling again.

Highboy is back, and guess who he jumps on first? Obsession, anybody?

highboy said...

"Highboy is back, and guess who he jumps on first? Obsession, anybody?"

I guess by your logic then all you anonymous posters are equally obsessed with radar right? Looks like you're the one that needs to grow up lil fella.

But for giggles, what else is there in this thread to respond to? Try posting something that actually says something if you're feeling left out.

radar said...

Woolf thinks he tore someone apart? It sure wasn't with logic and evidence!

My bankruptcy wasn't just medical because I was illegally fired from work and I was a MR. Mom with four kids and had a single income. They fired me, they had to hire me back with back pay then they fired me again.

All the new administration team they hired to get rid of the older employees were all fired afterwards. Then within ten years the entire company failed and in November the plant closed. Ironically today the factory building caught on fire and is burning to the ground! Had I stayed on there I would have lost my job in my late 50's and wondering what the heck to do now? Instead I had already gone back to school, changed careers and bought a big new house and etc.

I don't expect God to give me anything. God has a plan for the entire world and I am a tiny little part of it. I figure I will do what I think He wants me to do and follow His Word which teaches us to be kind to others and industrious and wise.

This blog is a kindness to the ignorant who may learn there is no truth underlying Darwinism, it is a kindness to those Christians who think they need to compromise with so-called "Science" as Darwinists lay claim to it without right or reason other than the power to do so and it is a kindness to those who do believe because I give them more ammunition.

It is a pain in the butt to the indoctrinators and the liars and the censors and the propagandists and the downright evil types who follow in the footsteps of Galton and Hitler and Huxley and Haeckel. Good!

Jon Woolf said...

"I admit I am surprised Jon Woolf still posts after Sarfati sliced and diced you."

I have no idea what you're talking about, Radar. Sarfati (or someone using that name) has commented here recently?

As for the rest of your ranting ... what is there to say? Faced with evidence, you resort to denial. Faced with demands for evidence, you fall back on abuse. Faced with someone who is immune to your propaganda, you ... can do nothing.

And I stand by what I said: the difference between this Radar and the Radar I first encountered here is quite visible, and quite unpleasant. Coupled with your posts about recent injuries, it makes me wonder if you're on some kind of opioid analgesic. Fa'sure you don't seem to be thinking too clearly.

Anonymous said...

Ah, hb, my very own internet hater. Nice to hear from you again, buddy. Man, if there's one sure fire way to bring you out of hiding it's talking about the Canadian health care system. Which is kinda weird, considering your "look at me I'm controversial!" blogger avatar. I mean, don't you have bigger fish to fry? What am I saying? I'm sure your burning hatred for all things Canada boils down to abortion as well (and me making fun of you probably doesn't help either).

The Canadian healthcare system may not be perfect, but it certainly is no "abysmal failure" and it's definitely better and cheaper than the one you guys run down there.

en(DOT)wikipedia(DOT)org/wiki/WHO%27s_ranking_of_health_care_systems

I'm sorry to break it to you hb, but you are not an authority on the Canadian system. And if you think the few years you lived in eastern Canada count as experience, well my 35+ years of actually living in it (including a number of hospital visits for broken limbs and at least one major surgery as a kid) kinda trumps that.

And it should surprise absolutely no one that the libertarian Fraser Institute supports the privatization of the health care system in Canada.

And you mention Ireland's "socialist policies" as a reason for their economic struggles. Really? The Celtic Tiger? Your cluelessness is showing again, hb. The Irish economy is suffering from the same deregulatory woes as the US is (primarily due to the property market and the banks handling of the property bubble). The same troubles that were avoided by the Canadian banking system because of our banking and financial regulations. Look it up.

And my country is broke? And it's because we protect people from medical bankruptcies? Why is it that your country is in such a deep hole, hb? Oh right, Obama. LOL, right back at ya, hb, LOL.

And let me get this straight, in the same comment in which you deride the possibility of me calling bias your link written by a Fox News talking head, you dismiss everything related to MSNBC due to "liberal bias"? Just watch the video, and then tell me what you think. Are you really saying that money in politics is a good thing?

Finally you say, "This idea that a loving God is only a loving God if He shelters and protects and blesses everyone from birth to death regardless of human decision in behavior is so childish and weak I can't believe I just typed an answer." (note that you didn't actually answer anything, by-the-way). I am talking specifically, in this case, about innocent children being sexually abused by priests. Are you saying that they deserved to be molested due to their "human decisions"? Because it's either that or your god can't intervene, or he won't intervene, or of course the simplest answer, he doesn't exist. Why doesn't your almighty and all-powerful god of the bible actually help these innocent children? And why don't you care that he allows stuff like that to go on? I mean what is the point of praying at all if those particular prayers to stop the molestation go unanswered? Like is often said about you neocon christian extremists, you care about "life" right up until birth but from that point on, it's every man, woman and child for themselves. It's ridiculous, really.

OK, so that's probably enough "Troll Chow" for you for a while, hb. I hope you enjoy your meal.

-Canucklehead.

Anonymous said...

"I guess by your logic then all you anonymous posters are equally obsessed with radar right? Looks like you're the one that needs to grow up lil fella.

But for giggles, what else is there in this thread to respond to? Try posting something that actually says something if you're feeling left out."


Like clockwork, LOL!

Do carry on; I'll enjoy the show and the popcorn.

highboy said...

"The Canadian healthcare system may not be perfect, but it certainly is no "abysmal failure" and it's definitely better and cheaper than the one you guys run down there."

Another falsehood. You'll notice the source I provided is an actual institution that compiled numbers from a study. Your source is an open source playground that can be edited and rewritten by either one of us.

"I'm sorry to break it to you hb, but you are not an authority on the Canadian system."

I don't have to be. You're just that uneducated and ignorant it just seems like I am.

"And it should surprise absolutely no one that the libertarian Fraser Institute supports the privatization of the health care system in Canada."

LOL. Sorry, no dice. Provide numbers, statistics, or some verifiable data that refutes the evidence they compiled. If your only argument against any evidence that refutes your ignorance is to call them "right wingers" or "libertarians" than you're the poster child for the failure of public school systems everywhere.

"The Irish economy is suffering from the same deregulatory woes as the US "

Sorry, wrong, and a 35 year old educated man would not have to be either this dishonest, this incompetent, or both. Ireland's economies are almost mirror images of Canada's and Britain's.

"And my country is broke?"

Correct.

"And let me get this straight, in the same comment in which you deride the possibility of me calling bias your link written by a Fox News talking head, you dismiss everything related to MSNBC due to "liberal bias"?"

Way to miss the point.

"Like is often said about you neocon christian extremists, you care about "life" right up until birth but from that point on, it's every man, woman and child for themselves. It's ridiculous, really."

If that were actually our position that would make sense. Since it isn't....but I guess in Canada you think ramming scissors into a baby's skull while its coming out of the womb is better right? Never mind, don't respond, we already know the answer.

As for your boring and childish rant about God and suffering, not sure how many times now it was explained to you, but good and bad things are allowed by God, and good and bad things are denied by God. I'm not God, so I don't know exactly how or why He chooses to do or allow one thing and not the other, nor should I. This idea you have that a loving God would only ever let sunshine and rainbows pour down on everyone regardless of the human condition is just ridiculous. Of course I question God in regards to child molestation, I also question why He allows liberal left wing blowhards to continue to allow the slaughter of millions of baby's every year. Just because a human can't understand everything an infinitely powerful and eternal being is doing is hardly being a "jerk".

Anonymous said...

Weak sauce trollboy. Not even going to waste my time responding to all that garbage. Derision is not an argument. At least I offer up some substance when I make fun of you. Try harder Tim.

I stand by everything I said in my last comment regarding the Canadian health care system. And the original source of my link is the World Health Organization not Wikipedia, dummy.

Oh and you conclude with the tried and true "mysterious ways" argument. Always good for a laugh. I should have known that you're cool with your "god" being a complete A-hole. You are just like him. And as far as "childish rants" go, I'm not the one that believes in an allpowerful sky daddy there bud, that'd be you.

-Canucklhead.

Anonymous said...

*grabs another bag of popcorn*

highboy said...

"Weak sauce trollboy. Not even going to waste my time responding to all that garbage."

Yet you did. LOL. Of course if you were able to defend your points you would have...

"Derision is not an argument."

...says the poster with the most derision filled arguments in the history of this blog with no verifiable facts whatsoever....

"I stand by everything I said in my last comment regarding the Canadian health care system."

The captain of a sinking ship is suppose to go down with his vessel so good for you sir.

"And the original source of my link is the World Health Organization not Wikipedia, dummy."

I thought derision wasn't an argument? And if you actually copy and paste your source genius, it takes you to wikipedia. Duh. And it doesn't even mention healthcare. If you can't even keep up with your own arguments you're going to have a hard time persuading people to see things in your twisted viewpoint.

"Oh and you conclude with the tried and true "mysterious ways" argument. Always good for a laugh. I should have known that you're cool with your "god" being a complete A-hole."

yeah what a jerk, creating life, giving us a paradise to live in, and then giving us free will to mess it all up. A loving God would totally brain wash everyone into doing what He wants so no one gets hurt. Its all His fault humanity wrecked the world.

"And as far as "childish rants" go, I'm not the one that believes in an allpowerful sky daddy there bud, that'd be you."

yes we know, you believe humanity was vomited into existence out of nothing and a scientific theory you admitted to not being able to defend. LOL.

highboy said...

Before I forget, you may want to look at The Healthcare Quarterly, (a Canadian site) and how they breakdown THE WHO's ranking of the healthcare system. (you know, the source you THOUGHT you were citing?) Seeing as how even your own healthcare experts call the ranking "pseudo-statistics" you may want to just climb into your tree house and cry for a while.

Anonymous said...

Comedy gold; keep it up, guys!

Anonymous said...

From the Healthcare Quarterly, or at least all I could find by searching for "world health organization statistics" on their website. The article is titled "Why Did the World Health Organization Rate Canada's Health System as 30th? Some Thoughts on League Tables" but hilariously, and not surprisingly, it doesn't say what hb would have liked it to say. Because while critical of the WHO ranking system, they are actually saying that Canada should be ranked higher than it was in the report. But don't take my word for it, from the article,

"The WHO 2000 rankings do not look at access, utilization, quality, costeffectiveness or most other dimensions of health systems. Although the rankings do attempt to include such potentially valuable dimensions as responsiveness and fair financing, the way they are measured in the report not only is of dubious validity, but does not in any event incorporate data about Real Canada. Differences in the scores for most developed countries are very small. Even so, Canada ranked seventh in "goal attainment"; the widely publicized value of 30th merely reflects the report's penalizing Canada's relatively high educational level. As Nord stressed, the report reflects a compression of "potentially useful primary measures in summary indices with unclear meaning, dubious validity, and little practical relevance" (Nord 2002). As such, these values are not particularly useful in evaluating the performance of any healthcare system, including that of Canada. It is past time that policy analysts retire this particular pseudo-statistic." - www(DOT)longwoods(DOT)com/content/17238

So, according to the article that you cited, while they appear to really dislike the WHO report, they believe Canada should have been ranked HIGHER than 30th in the world in terms of health care. So, what's your point again, hb?

-Canucklehead.

Anonymous said...

Looks like I lost another post. I will cut it into a couple pieces and try again here, as Radar hasn't been bothering to check the "spam folder" lately...

And since you seem to like these guys as a source, hb, here is a clip from another Healthcare Quarterly article on the sustainability of the Canadian healthcare system,

"To deny that sustainability is a real issue puts our remarkable medicare system at risk. The stakes are high. The consequences of failing to come to terms with this issue are daunting. But on the positive side, if we do deal with the issue, we have the opportunity to maintain a universal healthcare system that will make Canadians among the healthiest people anywhere and that will continue to be the pride of the country. Canadians will have the opportunity to reap the benefits offered by new and evolving medical technologies and new ways of delivering healthcare. By taking measures to ensure sustainability, we will prevent healthcare from crowding out other important government programs, and we will make sure that our healthcare system is an economic asset." - www(DOT)longwoods(DOT)com/content/18839

Hmmm... not exactly supporting your side of the argument on this issue are they. Weird.

-Canucklehead.

Anonymous said...

Nope. Part two is gone now too. Which is really too bad, because in it I quote yet another article from Healthcare Quarterly where they are critical of the Fraser Institute wait time data. Oh well, I'm sure Radar will unleash it upon you at some point. Until then, you'll have to go to the website (see a few comments up), and search for "Fraser Institute wait times" to see it.

-Canucklehead.

highboy said...

Canuck, you really are trying too hard. The point of posting the article was to show how extremely unreliable the THE WHO's study actually was, but I guess I should have figured you'd take out the bits you liked and disregard the rest. LOL.

As far as Frazer goes, please son, try to keep up. "http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2009/07/28/statistics-show-canada-healthcare-is-inferior-to-american-system"

"Fraser data shows many Canadians are still waiting almost four months (121 days) or more before they can receive treatment."

Keep trying canuck. Guys like you are why you're country will remain globally insignificant.

Anonymous said...

It's remarkable how many people keep making that mistake:

http://www.wikihow.com/Use-You%27re-and-Your