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Sunday, August 18, 2013

Darwinists fear the truth, bury it when possible - For instance, the flesh and blood remains now being uncovered in NUMEROUS DINOSAUR FOSSILS

Inconsistent With Gradualism

    "Paleontologists have paid an enormous price for Darwin's argument. We fancy ourselves as the only true students of life's history, yet to preserve our favored account of evolution by natural selection we view our data as so bad that we almost never see the very process we profess to study.
    The history of most fossil species includes two features inconsistent with gradualism:
    
    1. Stasis. Most species exhibit no directional change during their tenure on earth. They appear in the fossil record looking much the same as when they disappear.
    
    2. Sudden Appearance. In any local area, a species does not arise gradually by the steady transformation of its ancestors; it appears all at once and 'fully formed'."

 Stephen Jay Gould,
Prof of Geology and Paleontology, Harvard University. The Panda's Thumb, 1980, p. 181-182


One way to kneecap Darwinism is to demonstrate their deceptions...evidence that "ancient" fossils are NOT ancient is buried and thrown away. However, the Asians are more honest than most Western paleontologists and often the news from Asian sources includes flesh and blood remains. This is also happening more often from European sources. Is the Darwin Wall about to be knocked down like the Berlin Wall was back a generation ago? We do have some hope for clarity and honesty now...

DINOSAUR BONES "BURIED" BY EVOLUTIONISTS!


Submitted by stevejs on Mon, 2012-10-01 13:31


A recent presentation at the 2012 Western Pacific Geophysics meeting in Singapore showed C-14 dates of soft tissue found in dinosaur bones to be in the range from 22,000 - 39,000 years old. Previously, it has been assumed that dinosaurs died out over 65 million years ago, so these new findings are astonishing and should have made international news. But shortly after the presentation was made at the meeting, the abstract was removed from the meeting’s website. 
So it appears that instead of making international news, these findings have been buried. First, let’s look at what was actually being presented.
The organic matter (collagen) and hard carbonate bone mineral (bioapatite) in the bone samples were analyzed. The samples came from several species of dinosaurs (acrocanthosaur, hadrosaurus, triceratops and apatosaurus) taken from various sites in Texas, Colorado, Arkansas and Montana. The samples were meticulously handled and cleaned to avoid possible contamination. The carbon-14 (C-14) levels in these samples were measured using Accelerator Mass Spectrometry (AMS). The resultant C-14 ages obtained from these samples were consistently in the 22,000 - 39,000 years range. The fact that the samples were from a variety of species and sites all giving consistent results greatly reduces the chance that the results are from contamination. 
The theoretical upper limit for C-14 dating is ten times the half-life, or about 57,000 years. The proposed practical upper limit for C-14 dating is between 40,000 - 50,000 years. While some samples fell close to the 40,000 year upper limit, 16 out of 20 (80%) were aged at 35,000 years or younger, well within the acceptable upper C-14 dating limits.
While other researchers have found soft tissue in dinosaur bones and C-14 dates in these ranges, this current study has been the most comprehensive. The fact that there is any collagen at all remaining in these bone samples is amazing, considering that they are supposed to be older than 65 million years. Protein just doesn’t hang around that long! And that there is any C-14 in them also is reason to possibly question conventional wisdom. But why have we not heard about any of this in the news? Shouldn't there have been at least a 15-second blip from one of the media outlets? But the media have been silent and the abstract pulled from the meeting proceedings. The sacred cow of evolution once again remains intact.
We truly are living in an age of great deception. “And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.” (2 Thessalonians 2:11)
Notes: http://www.dinosaurc14ages.com/carbondating.htm 
This article, by Creation Moments board member Dr. Don Clark, is based on an interview broadcast by Broken Road Radio. To hear the interview and many others on biblical creation topics, go to http://brokenroadradio.com/morning-show-september-17-2012/
A recent presentation at the 2012 Western Pacific Geophysics meeting in Singapore showed C-14 dates of soft tissue found in dinosaur bones to be in the range from 22,000 - 39,000 years old. Previously, it has been assumed that dinosaurs died out over 65 million years ago, so these new findings are astonishing and should have made international news. But shortly after the presentation was made at the meeting, the abstract was removed from the meeting’s website!
So it appears that instead of making international news, these findings have been buried. First, let’s look at what was actually being presented.
The organic matter (collagen) and hard carbonate bone mineral (bioapatite) in the bone samples were analyzed. The samples came from several species of dinosaurs (acrocanthosaur, hadrosaurus, triceratops and apatosaurus) taken from various sites in Texas, Colorado, Arkansas and Montana. The samples were meticulously handled and cleaned to avoid possible contamination. The carbon-14 (C-14) levels in these samples were measured using Accelerator Mass Spectrometry (AMS). The resultant C-14 ages obtained from these samples were consistently in the 22,000 - 39,000 years range. The fact that the samples were from a variety of species and sites all giving consistent results greatly reduces the chance that the results are from contamination. 
The theoretical upper limit for C-14 dating is ten times the half-life, or about 57,000 years. The proposed practical upper limit for C-14 dating is between 40,000 - 50,000 years. While some samples fell close to the 40,000 year upper limit, 16 out of 20 (80%) were aged at 35,000 years or younger, well within the acceptable upper C-14 dating limits.
While other researchers have found soft tissue in dinosaur bones and C-14 dates in these ranges, this current study has been the most comprehensive. The fact that there is any collagen at all remaining in these bone samples is amazing, considering that they are supposed to be older than 65 million years. Protein just doesn’t hang around that long! And that there is any C-14 in them also is reason to possibly question conventional wisdom. But why have we not heard about any of this in the news? Shouldn't there have been at least a 15-second blip from one of the media outlets? But the media have been silent and the abstract pulled from the meeting proceedings. The sacred cow of evolution once again remains intact.
We truly are living in an age of great deception. “And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.” (2 Thessalonians 2:11)
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The truth is that C-14 is found in every single sedimentary layer in fossils.   Also, Darwinists have wrongly calibrated their C-14 so that they give much older ages for the readings.   Other than that, C-14 in ANY dinosaur fossils and flesh and blood in ANY fossils debunks Darwinism anyway...
Cue Hugh Miller in response to typical anonymous comments...

The solution to the challenge of deception by "anonymous" is for paleontologists and others in Academia to test for C-14 in dinosaur bones in bone repositories world-wide. Deletion of abstracts from web sites just because the data does not agree with the current paradigm of origins is censorship as the abstract was originally approved for delivery AND THEN PRESENTED. 

Regarding the 22,000 to 39,000 year range the actual or real age could have been much younger as noted below as well as other very good scientific reasons.
COULD DINOSAURS & OTHER LIFE FORMS BE EVEN YOUNGER?

14C ages for dinosaurs from Texas to Alaska and even China and Europe show that the alleged 65 - 225 M years between man and dinosaurs do not exist. Could their bones be even younger than 22,000-39,000 radiocarbon years obtained at five different labs including the University of Georgia in Athens, Georgia? Yes! The long 14C ages for “some” living plants suggest that 10,000 14C years & beyond for dinosaurs & other life forms could be their maximum 14C ages. Real ages could be much younger depending on 14C content of ingested nutrients.* Could dinosaurs have interacted with historical man as distinct depictions of many “dragons” alias dinosaurs and their embellishments suggest? Yes, books and web sites document dinosaur depictions world-wide.** Lab reports available.

* False Older 14C Ages from Old Carbon Absorption

10,000 RC(a) years for a living tree growing next to a German airport as a result of consuming old carbon dioxide from engine exhausts [1].

17,300 to 24,750 RC years BP for living plants growing in 14C deficient water of Montezuma’s well of Arizona; some living gastropods will give very old ages too [2].

The base rock of this is limestone 4800 RC years BP for a live plant subjected to gas from an ancient carbon dioxide source thus confirming the mechanism and the field to lab C-14 data. [3]. 

(a) RC is Radiocarbon - another name for 14C; by admitting an electron, 14C with a half-life of 5730 ± 40 years decays into the stable non-radioactive isotope Nitrogen -14.

[1] “Recording gaseous exchange under field conditions,” The Physiology of Forest Trees, K. V. Thinmann ed., New York, (1958) p. 194, cited in Ginenthal, op cit. p. 174.
[2] “Radiocarbon and pollen evidence for a sudden change in climate in the Great Lakes Region 10,000 years ago,” Quarternary Paleoecology, E. J. Cushing, H. E. Wright, Jr. eds., New Haven, CT, (1967) p. 119, cited in Ginenthal, op cit., p. 175.
[3] “Radiocarbon dates in living plants based on absorbing of old carbon containing gases,” Radiocarbon Journal, (1998) 40 #1 p. 57-60.
PREPARED BY HUGH MILLER of the Paleo Group, Box 2613, Columbus OH 43216 with the assistance of Dr. Robert Bennett, physicist, USA & Dr. Marie Clair van Oosterwych, mineralogist of France who co-discovered the above field/lab references.
** Nelson, Vance, 2011. Untold Secrets of Planet Earth – Dire Dragons. Untold Secrets of Planet Earth Publishing Company, Box 25147, Deer Park P.O. Red Deer, Alberta, Canada T4R2M2 www.untoldsecretsofplanetearth.com ≈500 to 5,000 real years.
Swift, Dennis, 2006. Secrets of the Ica Stones publisher N/A; available on Amazon or http://www.dinosaursandman.com/ ≈500 to 1500 real years in Mexico & SA etc.

CONCLUSION: If the 14C ages in the 1000’s of years for other dinosaurs and shale world-wide prove consistently reproducible by other scientists then most dinosaurs in the fossil record must have met their end in a universal cataclysm as science suggests; BUT, 2000 times more recently than the conventional wisdom of 65 Ma BP. Needless to say this is indeed an explosive topic but scientists have an obligation to check such important anomalies for validity as part of the scientific method and search for truth in science. An international conference of experts could be convened to design field & lab research studies using modern paleohydraulics (how sediments and rocks form), mineralogy (how minerals form) and 14C dating methods.

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

"The carbon-14 (C-14) levels in these samples were measured using Accelerator Mass Spectrometry (AMS). The resultant C-14 ages obtained from these samples were consistently in the 22,000 - 39,000 years range."

Yawn. Creationists still refuse to learn (as scientists did decades ago) that not all dating methods work on all materials, and that applying the wrong method will yield completely wrong results.