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Wednesday, February 14, 2007

The whole world is a movie theatre, and AL Gore is the guy shouting, "Fire!"

I took a great deal of time to make a subsequent post on the subject of global warming in order to give commenters a chance to refute my points and give myself time to get some work done and a few other projects. Commenters have failed miserably to refute the stated facts as follows:

The Earth's average temperature has been fluctuating for the whole of recorded history, long before fossil fuels were in widespread use or anyone had invented the term, "carbon footprint." No one has been able to refute this obvious fact. I didn't think that they could. Truth is, like I had said:

The earth appears to be on a warming cycle.
The earth has experienced such cycles before.
There is no evidence that such cycles were manmade in the past.
Cooling cycles have followed warming cycles.
There is no evidence that the cooling cycles were manmade.
Therefore logic indicates a cooling cycle will follow.
Logic also indicates that it will do so independent of mankind.

Just because A (warming trend) follows B (higher greenhouse gas emissions) doesn't mean that B caused A. That is a logical fallacy as well. Cum hoc ergo propter hoc. I can illustrate this easily enough:

George sneezes. A car passes by the front window. Therefore, George caused the car to come by with his sneeze. Uhm, NO! I am afraid that such logic is the basis for the current Global Warming hysteria.

But logic and facts don't seem to carry the day with the frantic Gore crowd. THE INCONVENIENT FICTION is the equivalent of Gore shouting "Fire" and the world stampeding towards the exits. I have a great deal of contempt for Al Gore, and for good reason!

He claimed to be (He and Tipper) the basis for the novel "Love Story", which was false.
He took at least partial credit for inventing the internet
He and Tipper once waged a campaign to censor rock music videos and lyrics, supposedly as good Christian people concerned for the children. Now he advocated murdering children before they are even born. His Dick Durbinesque ability to adjust his politics to fit the next wave is anathema to me. Now he is on this global warming kick!!!!

Al Gore and his cohorts are on a Commie-like mission to completely shut off the opposing viewpoint. I have blogged on this before but I believe it is instructive to add another voice. Cue Dennis Prager:

"In her last column, Boston Globe columnist Ellen Goodman wrote: "Let's just say that global warming deniers are now on a par with Holocaust deniers . . . "

This is worthy of some analysis.



A general view show the lower house of Parliament Bundestag inside the Reichstags building during a commemoration ceremony to mark the Holocaust memorial day in Berlin January 29, 2007. REUTERS/Fabrizio Bensch (GERMANY)

First, it reflects a major difference between the way in which the Left and Right tend to view each other. With a few exceptions, those on the Left tend to view their ideological adversaries as bad people, i.e., people with bad intentions, while those on the Right tend to view their adversaries as wrong, perhaps even dangerous, but not usually as bad.

Those who deny the Holocaust are among the evil of the world. Their concern is not history but hurting Jews, and their attempt to rob nearly six million people of their experience of unspeakable suffering gives new meaning to the word "cruel." To equate those who question or deny global warming with those who question or deny the Holocaust is to ascribe equally nefarious motives to them. It may be inconceivable to Al Gore, Ellen Goodman and their many millions of supporters that a person can disagree with them on global warming and not have evil motives: Such an individual must be paid by oil companies to lie, or lie -- as do Holocaust deniers -- for some other vile reason.

The belief that opponents of the Left are morally similar to Nazis was expressed recently by another prominent person of the Left, George Soros, the billionaire who bankrolls many leftist projects. At the World Economic Forum in Davos last month, Soros called on America to "de-Nazify" just as Germany did after the Holocaust and World War II. For Soros, America in Iraq is like the Nazis in Poland.

A second lesson to be drawn from the Goodman statement is that it helps us to understand better one of the defining mottos of contemporary liberalism: "Question authority." In reality, this admonition applies to questioning the moral authority of Judeo-Christian religions or of any secular conservative authority, but not of any other authority. UN and other experts tell us that there is global warming; such authority is not to be questioned.

Third, the equation of global warming denial to Holocaust denial trivializes Holocaust denial. If questioning global warming is on "a par" with questioning the Holocaust, how bad can questioning the Holocaust really be? The same holds true with regard to Nazism and the George Soros statement. Claiming that America in the Iraq War is morally equivalent to Nazi Germany in World War II trivializes the unparalleled evil of the Nazis.

Fourth, the lack of response (thus far) of any liberal or left individual or organization -- except to defend Ellen Goodman -- or from the Anti-Defamation League, the organization whose primary purpose has been to defend Jews, is telling. Just imagine if, for example, an equally prominent Christian figure had written that denying America is a Christian country is on a par with denying the Holocaust. It would have been front-page news in the mainstream media, the individual would have been excoriated by just about every major liberal individual and group, and the ADL would have cited this as an example of burgeoning Christian anti-Semitism and Holocaust trivialization. But not a word at the ADL on Soros's comments about de-Nazifying America or Goodman's Holocaust-denial comment.

Fifth, and finally, the Ellen Goodman quote is only the beginning of what is already becoming one of the largest campaigns of vilification of decent people in history -- the global condemnation of a) anyone who questions global warming; or b) anyone who agrees that there is global warming but who argues that human behavior is not its primary cause; or c) anyone who agrees that there is global warming, and even agrees that human behavior is its primary cause, but does not believe that the consequences will be nearly as catastrophic as Al Gore does.

If you don't believe all three propositions, you will be lumped with Holocaust deniers, and it would not be surprising that soon, in Europe, global warming deniers will be treated as Holocaust deniers and prosecuted. Just watch. That is far more likely than the oceans rising by 20 feet. Or even 10. Or even three."


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Right now I am watching about 15 inches or so of global warming blow around outside my front door. I have snow dunes in my back yard and every member of the household has been called upon to take turns digging and re-digging out the driveway. Yeah, I know, global warming doesn't preclude snow. But it's funny to discuss it while we are in the middle of a long cold snap.

Those disastrous hurricanes Gore predicted for last year? Not one hit shore on the continental USA last season. New Orleans is sinking, the ocean isn't rising. There is so much misinformation being bandied about. Now we see commercials presenting global warming as a roaring freight train bearing down upon an innocent child! Talk about propaganda!!!

You Al Gore sycophants make me sick! You who go to pro-abortion rallies wearing your "save-the-whales" t-shirts and put "bushchimphitler" stickers on your compact cars, yeah, YOU! Now you want to hurt the economy and help keep developing nations from, well, developing, by putting major constraints on industry in the name of a non-existent phenomenon. Is it because you want another world-wide depression so Communism can give it another try? Al Gore is so rich it wouldn't hurt him if the bottom fell out of the US economy, why should he care? He just wants acclaim, and another shot at the brass ring. Guys like that think they ought to run things and that everything should receive oversight from "Progressives" who know better than the rest of us.

Ronald Reagan said that Communism doesn't work here on earth. "...They don't need it in Heaven, and they already have it in Hell."

You really want to see global warming? It doesn't work here. Heaven doesn't need it and Hell already has it!

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

"I took a great deal of time to make a subsequent post on the subject of global warming in order to give commenters a chance to refute my points and give myself time to get some work done and a few other projects. Commenters have failed miserably to refute the stated facts as follows:

The Earth's average temperature has been fluctuating for the whole of recorded history, long before fossil fuels were in widespread use or anyone had invented the term, "carbon footprint." No one has been able to refute this obvious fact. I didn't think that they could."


On the contrary, Radar, you haven't been able to back this up, and we've been waiting for you to do so.

Last time I checked the comments on the previous posts, the ball was in your court to attempt the feat of backing up these "facts" without becoming an Old Earth Creationist in the process.

Your silence and subsequent evasion tells me that this is yet another circle you can't square, and yet another question you wish to walk away from.

Please tell us the temperature cycles of the Earth from a YEC perspective, that is, excluding those layers and layers of rocks, ice cores and tree rings that you need to deny in order to keep a YEC worldview alive. Have any YECers done any research compatible with their beliefs into this issue, or do they all practice a collective mental disconnect, in which one kind of science applies to anything not to do with evolution, and another pseudo-science (one that excludes dendrochronology, ice cores etc.) that is slapped together to prop up YEC in some way?

What "historical record" are you willing to allow to lead you to the conclusion of these multiple warming and cooling cycles?

On the other hand, you can keep evading the issue and, in doing so, conceding it.

-- creeper

Lava said...

Radar- do you it would be proper for me to take what you say, and then extrapolate from these quotes and make blanket statements about conservatives as a whole--how they think and act? (I was writing this question thinking I'd obviously get a "no" answer, but now that I read it over, I'm not quite so sure)

You spend a post bashing liberals based on what one liberal said. Then you change course to take shots a George Soros because he said something almost connected to what Goodman said(but what I think is far different). I don't think its proper to use a broad brush and take what goodman said and apply it to liberals in general. I would love to know what liberal groups are supporting Goodman. I consider myself a liberal-- and I think what she said is awful-- and I figure there are other liberals like me who think the same way.


THANK YOU radar for at last giving your a reason why the majority of scientists support the hypothesis that GW is human influenced. COMMUNISTS! It has got to be the communists!!! Thank you Senator McCarthy, oh wait, I mean radar-- that has got to be the answer, because who like communists? Communists are bad. Thus, what communists think is bad. Thus, if commies believe in GW I don't. Whew- makes me feel much better that the world isn't in trouble now that I know the commies are just trying to regain control of the world by spurring a world wide depression.

Have you even seen an inconvenient truth? (I doubt it, so....) The solutions Gore presents are not unreasonable ones. They aren't like "Take every factory and tear it down" or anything. Its stuff like using energy efficient appliances.

Anonymous said...

" "The whole world is a movie theatre, and AL Gore is the guy shouting, "Fire!"""

Well, not just Al Gore - there's that whole scientific consensus thing. I'm not the biggest fan of Gore either, but that's no reason to spread lies about him.

"I have a great deal of contempt for Al Gore, and for good reason!"

Too bad your reasons are urban legends, as you could have found out with some very superficial research...

"He claimed to be (He and Tipper) the basis for the novel "Love Story", which was false."

As it turned out, he was, in a way, the basis for the novel "Love Story" - though it wasn't him and Tipper, it was him and his roommate, Tommy Lee Jones, who as a composite character inspired the male lead.

The reason Gore thought it was him and Tipper wasn't just blind hubris, but an erroneous newspaper article in which Erich Segal, the author of Love Story, said that the book was based on Al and Tipper.

"He took at least partial credit for inventing the internet|

Good grief, Radar, how many times has this been debunked? He didn't claim he invented it, his quote was overblown but he corrected himself in the very next sentence, and he actually did do a lot in his public service to help make the Internet what it is today (i.e. we're not surfing blogs on Arpanet).

"He and Tipper once waged a campaign to censor rock music videos and lyrics, supposedly as good Christian people concerned for the children."

No, that was Tipper's hobby.

"Now he advocated murdering children before they are even born. His Dick Durbinesque ability to adjust his politics to fit the next wave is anathema to me. Now he is on this global warming kick!!!!"

His "global warming kick" has been around for quite a while. He published "Earth in the Balance" in 1992.

"Right now I am watching about 15 inches or so of global warming blow around outside my front door. I have snow dunes in my back yard and every member of the household has been called upon to take turns digging and re-digging out the driveway. Yeah, I know, global warming doesn't preclude snow. But it's funny to discuss it while we are in the middle of a long cold snap."

Two fallacies here:

1. Do see if you can figure out the difference between weather and climate. To remark that it's cold out, so global warming can't be true doesn't make any sense at all. It's like remarking that one stock that you happen to own went down today, so it can't be true that the stock market goes up in the long run.

2. Global warming doesn't mean that every place on Earth gets warmer. On the contrary, disruption of ocean currents can actually result in some continents or land areas getting much colder.


-- creeper