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Friday, June 19, 2009

Not Evil, Just Wrong?

Before I go back to Genesis, this excerpt from the Wall Street Journal which is exceedingly topical:

Filmmaker vs. Hysterics

The economic consequences of Al Gore.


Irish documentary filmmakers Phelim McAleer and Ann McElhinney have stirred up trouble before by debunking smug liberal hypocrisy. Their latest film, "Not Evil, Just Wrong" takes on the hysteria over global warming and warns that rushing to judgment in combating climate change would threaten the world's poor.

[Al Gore]

The film reminds us that environmentalists have been wrong in the past, as when they convinced the world to ban the pesticide DDT, costing the lives of countless malaria victims. The ban was finally reversed by the World Health Organization only after decades of debate. The two Irish filmmakers argue that if Al Gore's advice to radically reduce carbon emissions is followed, it would condemn to poverty two billion people in the world who have yet to turn on their first light switch.

Mr. McAleer and Ms. McElhinney have put needles into the pincushions of self-satisfied environmentalists before. In 2007, they produced a documentary called "Mine Your Own Business," which told the story of a poor village in Romania where environmentalists fought plans for a new gold mine. The village, where unemployment tops 70%, desperately needed the $1 billion in new investment and 600 jobs the project would bring. But environmentalists have blocked it, claiming it would pollute a pristine environment.Mr. McAleer, then a journalist with the Financial Times, considers himself an environmentalist. But when he covered the story for his paper, he says, "I found that almost everything the environmentalists were saying about the project was misleading, exaggerated or quite simply false."

The two filmmakers are skilled at using provocative publicity tactics. On April 22, they will hold a public showing of their film at the Rachel Carson Elementary School in the suburbs of Seattle. "Since it was Rachel Carson who touched off the campaign to ban DDT, we thought showing 'Not Evil, Just Wrong' there would be appropriate," says Mr. McAleer.

Local environmentalists will probably not appreciate the gesture and will be appalled that the school agreed to rent out its auditorium to the renegade skeptics. But somebody might point out that it's not evil, just appropriate, to hold a debate about the real-world consequences of acting on global warming fears.


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"I found that almost everything the environmentalists were saying about the project was misleading, exaggerated or quite simply false."

How do you know an environmentalist is lying? When his mouth is moving!

In truth, the Rachel Carson Silent Spring DDT hysteria has killed off millions, most of them the poorer peoples of the tropical and subtropical zones and most of them people of color. Abortion takes the lives of an inordinate number of potentially poor people of color away from the world before they get a chance to even take one breath. Eugenics, a philosophy based upon the concept of macroevolution, has sterilized poor people of color and was a component of the justification behind Jim Crow laws. The pure Darwinist believes that some races of people are superior to others and that the rich are, to borrow a line from Animal Farm, more equal than others.

Before you accuse me of lying, check out where the Planned Parenthood offices are located nationwide. Check out the history of Eugenics in this country. Think about all the deaths caused by Malaria since the DDT ban was put in effect. Think about where most of those deaths occurred.

Would it surprise you to learn that Al Gore and many other politicians have invested in companies that would be enriched by carbon offsets and cap-and-trade policies?

It's not really about global warming, it is about wallet fattening.



Yep, you can have that last line for free!

9 comments:

Anonymous said...

The pure Darwinist believes that some races of people are superior to others and that the rich are, to borrow a line from Animal Farm, more equal than others.

So what is a pure darwinist? And why do they believe some races are superior to others? You made a bit of a logical jump there with no real support.

Maybe "Darwinism" + racism = jim crow laws, eugenics,... but racism is a necessary part of that equation.

Are there no racist YEC out there? I could probably say fairly that "the pure YEC believe some religions are superior to others..." No, Radar? Would the one true right religion be superior to all the others?


lava

radar said...

Yes, lava, we are in agreement.

The Darwinist logically concludes there is a superior race of men.

The Christian logically concludes that all men are created equal.

The Darwinist believes all religions are equally equal and irrelevant.

The Christian believes only one religion is superior and true.

Anonymous said...

I think you are conflating racism with "darwinism". Where is the jump? Some people used some "darwinist" ideas in a racist way so all people who are "darwinists" are racist (or believe that there is a superior race of man)?

Do you see the logical problem here? If I didn't know better, I'd ask you if you were being serious here.

lava

radar said...

This is simple. Darwinism teaches that man evolved from lesser creatures via natural selection by mechanism of mutation.

Logic dictates that, if evolution.natural selection drives organisms up the ladder of intelligence and superiority, the most advanced have the most value. Therefore there can be inferior and superior humans.

Logic further dictates that mankind should seek to cull the weakest among them from the flock of mankind in order to breed the best stock, just as we do with cattle and sheep. We might also choose for specific traits from within the gene pool as we do in dog breeding as well as with cattle and other animals.

Eugenics arose from Darwinian thought. The idea was to rid the human species of the weak, the diseased, the less intelligent and thusly improve our genetic pool as a race. It is a part of our nation's history that this took place. It is a fact that Eugenicist Margaret Sanger formed Planned Parenthood as a part of the program, planning to place clinics in the poorer areas of the United States. This country promoted sterilization and death for "lesser" humans and in fact, since abortion is legal today, to some extent we still do it!

It is also a fact that Adolf Hitler and many of the scientists working under his regime believed they had a mission to cleanse Europe of "inferior" men and promote the Aryan super race of Germany to leadership of all humanity. Conveniently, Christians and political opponents soon joined those with diseases, Jews and those with deformities at the various horrendous camps where people were used as experimental animals and/or slaughtered, sometimes after being worked to the end of their strength first.

You can rightly state that their are thousands of Darwinists who are absolutely NOT racist and would be repelled by the idea of managing the human race like cattle. I would agree with you.

You can rightly state that various nimrod dictators and fanatics have killed thousands and even millions in the name of a god. No argument from me there.

But here are facts you will find hard to refute.

1) The two men responsible for the largest slaughter of innocents in the 20th century would be, in order, the Marxist (a Darwinist philosopy) Josef Stalin and the Nazi (Outright believer in Eugenics applied) Adolph Hitler. These two men were responsible for probably between 32 and 50 million innocent deaths, the slaughter of peasants and Jews and political enemies and Christians during the 1920's and 1930's being often hidden from the American public until well after the fact.

2) The people who started Planned Parenthood were Eugenicists and the majority of Planned Parenthood offices are found in the poorer areas and areas where a larger percentage of people of color live.

3) An indordinate percentage of aborted babies are minorities racially.

I will not argue about specific individual Darwinists who are great guys or Christians who give Christ a bad name. Both exist. But philosophically the Christian standard is that all men are created equal and that murder is wrong.

Darwinism does not assert that all men are equal nor does it agree that murder is wrong. In fact, Darwinism does not imply any moral code beyond the imperative to survive and procreate. Darwinism doesn't lead to crazy Nazi/Superman thinking necessarily, but it does not refute it either.

Anonymous said...

This is simple. Darwinism teaches that man evolved from lesser creatures via natural selection by mechanism of mutation.

Lesser?

Logic dictates that, if evolution.natural selection drives organisms up the ladder of intelligence and superiority, the most advanced have the most value. Therefore there can be inferior and superior humans.

ladder of intelligence? ladder of superiority? This logic fellow you speak of- he seems confused. I don't believe evolution is making any value judgments on different species and organisms.

Logic further dictates that mankind should seek to cull the weakest among them from the flock of mankind in order to breed the best stock, just as we do with cattle and sheep. We might also choose for specific traits from within the gene pool as we do in dog breeding as well as with cattle and other animals.

Whoa- logic, you need to slow down. Please back up and explain how mankind should now cull the weakest. Evolution taught us this? Link?

Animal husbandry has been around for quite a while. It pre-dates Darwin. Couldn't we say husbandry led to this logical conclusion of yours?

Eugenics arose from Darwinian thought. The idea was to rid the human species of the weak, the diseased, the less intelligent and thusly improve our genetic pool as a race. It is a part of our nation's history that this took place. It is a fact that Eugenicist Margaret Sanger formed Planned Parenthood as a part of the program, planning to place clinics in the poorer areas of the United States. This country promoted sterilization and death for "lesser" humans and in fact, since abortion is legal today, to some extent we still do it!

First, that an idea/theory was perverted into something awful doesn't make that idea or theory horrible. Were any atrocities performed in the name of Christ?

Second, Abortion=eugenics?

It is also a fact that Adolf Hitler and many of the scientists working under his regime believed they had a mission to cleanse Europe of "inferior" men and promote the Aryan super race of Germany to leadership of all humanity. Conveniently, Christians and political opponents soon joined those with diseases, Jews and those with deformities at the various horrendous camps where people were used as experimental animals and/or slaughtered, sometimes after being worked to the end of their strength first.

Again, the perversion of an idea doesn't make the original idea any more irrelevant.

Anonymous said...

(had to split this in 2)


You can rightly state that their are thousands of Darwinists who are absolutely NOT racist and would be repelled by the idea of managing the human race like cattle. I would agree with you.

Great.

You can rightly state that various nimrod dictators and fanatics have killed thousands and even millions in the name of a god. No argument from me there.

Great.

But here are facts you will find hard to refute.

1) The two men responsible for the largest slaughter of innocents in the 20th century would be, in order, the Marxist (a Darwinist philosopy) Josef Stalin and the Nazi (Outright believer in Eugenics applied) Adolph Hitler. These two men were responsible for probably between 32 and 50 million innocent deaths, the slaughter of peasants and Jews and political enemies and Christians during the 1920's and 1930's being often hidden from the American public until well after the fact.


That these dictators were more "successful" in mass killings makes the motivation behind their killings (assuming arguendo, a perversion of some evolutionary thought) than the "various nimrod dictators and fanatics have killed thousands and even millions in the name of a god" makes evolution...what?...evil? satanic?

2) The people who started Planned Parenthood were Eugenicists and the majority of Planned Parenthood offices are found in the poorer areas and areas where a larger percentage of people of color live.

I'll take your word for it.

3) An indordinate percentage of aborted babies are minorities racially.

I'm not really sure how abortion came into play here in this discussion. To characterize it as a genocide, as you basically have done here, is a bit ridiculous, though.


I will not argue about specific individual Darwinists who are great guys or Christians who give Christ a bad name. Both exist. But philosophically the Christian standard is that all men are created equal and that murder is wrong.

Darwinism does not assert that all men are equal nor does it agree that murder is wrong. In fact, Darwinism does not imply any moral code beyond the imperative to survive and procreate. Darwinism doesn't lead to crazy Nazi/Superman thinking necessarily, but it does not refute it either.


This last paragraph is spot on. Evolution is not a moral code. It does not dictate what is right and wrong. I would say, though, that it does not even imply any moral code. It is an explanation for the past and provides predictions on the future.

lava

Chaos Engineer said...

1) The two men responsible for the largest slaughter of innocents in the 20th century would be, in order, the Marxist (a Darwinist philosophy) Josef Stalin and the Nazi (Outright believer in Eugenics applied) Adolph Hitler

It's a little more complicated than that. Hitler claimed to support Eugenics, but he had little-if-any solid science behind his program. A science-backed program of genocide would have been just as evil, of course. But that isn't what he had. There's no such thing as a "Jewish race" or an "Aryan race".

Hitler cloaked his schemes in sciency-sounding language, but the Holocaust was really just one more outbreak of "gutter-Christianity". Do you know the kind of Christianity I'm talking about? It's the one that starts with, "Oooo, those guys go to church on Saturday and don't call it church! Scary!" and ends with, "Hey look, in Matthew 27:24-25, all the Jews say 'His blood be upon us and on our children'. That must mean we're allowed to kill them. Whew, now we won't have to be scared anymore!" (And gutter-Christianity is still alive and well today, although modern gutter-Christians tend to be more afraid of the 'Muzlims' and the 'Sodomites' than the Jews.)

The Stalin situation is a little more complicated. Remember that Marxism is (in principle) opposed to racism. Hitler used pseudo-Darwinist rhetoric in support of racism, which was reason enough for the USSR to reject Darwin. Stalin's pet biologist was a crackpot named Lysenko who denied that chance played a role in evolution. Any unrepentant Darwinists got shipped off to the gulags, so I don't think we can blame them for Stalin.

2) The people who started Planned Parenthood were Eugenicists and the majority of Planned Parenthood offices are found in the poorer areas and areas where a larger percentage of people of color live.

That's odd. Is the demand for Planned Parenthood services higher in those communities? That would explain why they need to open more offices...

3) An indordinate percentage of aborted babies are minorities racially.

Hmmm. It sounds like the demand is higher. I wonder why that is? Do you suppose that some racial groups are just morally inferior to others? What other reasons besides moral inferiority might they have?

Anonymous said...

And good old Planned Parenthood teaches sex education and gives out those mighty condoms. All that wonderful advise about birth control. Why do you think that PP is outraged about abstinence education? Bad for business.

As long as people behave contrary to God's plan they will suffer the consequences. Debbie

scohen said...

"Why do you think that PP is outraged about abstinence education? Bad for business."

Not according to science or doctors it's not. Don't you find it troubling that you advocate policies that in all likelihood increase the number of abortions?