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Monday, October 19, 2009

Creationism from a non-Creationist source

One of my commenters seems to think it is a big deal he found a guy who is generally considered a scientist and a Christian and maybe even a YEC who thinks evolution is a valid theory. Eh, so he found a guy. My response? I found a guy with an organization that promotes religious tolerance between Christians and Islam and Judaism and Wicca and so on and so on who has posted a strong defense of YEC. So here you go:

Essay donated by Dr. Zvi Shkedi

"3. Torah and Science: Age of the universe:
Theory & Observations; Physics,
Functions, and Differential Equations

Theory and Observations:

Live mollusks in Hawaii had their shells dated with the carbon-14 method. The tests showed that they died 2000 years ago!

A freshly killed seal was dated at 1,300 years old!

Shells from living snails dated at 27,000 years old!

Living penguins were dated at 8,000 years old!

The oldest living coral reef is less than 4200 years old. If the earth is billions of years old, why is there not a bigger and older coral reef?

The oldest living tree in the world is about 4300 years old. If the earth is billions of years old, and life on earth started millions of years ago, why don't we find older trees?

Textbooks in astronomy state that 100,000 years are required for a star to "evolve" from a red giant to a white dwarf. Cicero in year 50 BCE described Sirius as being a red star; Seneca, approximately in year 20 AD, said Sirius was redder than Mars; Ptolemy in year 150 AD said Sirius was one of 6 red stars in the sky. Yet, today, less than 2000 years later, Sirius is a white dwarf. Where did the theory of 100,000 years come from?

In 1760, Georges-Louis Leclerc, determined that the earth is 75,000 years old. In 1831 Charles Lyell said the age of the world is 240 million years. Did the earth get 240 million years older within 71 years? Obviously it didn't. The only thing that changed was the speculative model and extrapolation used to calculate the age. In 1929 Edwin Hubble calculated the solar system to be 2 billion years old. Now the earth seemed to age at a rate of 18 million years per year. The current theory is that the earth is 5 billion years old. That's an even faster aging rate of 38 million years per year. Is this how "time warp" in science fiction started?

The models used by scientists to calculate the age of the world keep changing frequently. There seems to be some kind of a competition among scientists - who can calculate an older age, or who can dream up a model or a theory which will yield an older age. The common aspect of all these models is extreme speculative extrapolation of current data back into a period of time for which we have no data - only assumptions, speculative theories, and a heavy dose of human imagination.

In 1959, a survey was taken of leading American scientists. Among the many questions asked was, "What is your concept of the age of the universe?" (Not just the earth, but, the entire universe). Dr. Gerald Schroeder reports (“Age of the Universe” January 2000) that two-thirds of the scientists gave the same answer: "There was no beginning". Aristotle and Plato said 2400 years ago that the universe is eternal. Their theory was preferred by the scientists over the first word in the Bible: "In the beginning" ("Bereshit" in Hebrew).

With the discovery of the expanding universe by Edwin Hubble, and some evidence of the "big bang" found in 1965 by Arno Penzias and Robert Wilson the world paradigm changed from a universe that was eternal to a universe that had a beginning. Scientists have made an enormous paradigm change in their understanding of the universe. They finally discovered, after more than 3000 years of research and debate, that the universe had a beginning and that the first word in the Bible is a scientifically proven truth. Now, it is only a matter of time before scientists also discover the truth of the second and third words in the Bible: "God created".

The world population in year 1000 AD was 310 million. In year 1750 AD the world population was 791 million. To avoid the impact of modern technology and medicine, we will not count the years after 1750. The world population growth from year 1000 to year 1750 gives us an average growth rate of 0.125% per year. This is a very slow rate which takes into account all the effects of wars, plagues, natural catastrophes, and negative growth periods, before the onset of modern technology and medicine. When we extrapolate this slow growth rate backwards, we find that we have to start with 2 people in year 14100 BCE, to achieve these known world population numbers. [The mathematical equation is: population = (starting-no.-of-people) * 1.00125 ^ (total-no.-of-years).]

Living conditions in ancient times could not be much worse than in Africa before the beginning of the 20th century. The average growth rate in Africa from year 1750 to year 1900 was 0.15%. This rate is very close, yet, larger than the 0.125% world growth rate mentioned above. In ancient times, when overall population density was lower, the growth rate was much higher than 0.15%, and definitely not lower than 0.12%. By comparison, during the 210 years that the Jews were enslaved in ancient Egypt, the average growth rate was about 5% per year.

The known growth rate in Asia between the years 1750 and 1900 was 0.42% per year. This rate is very close to the 0.45% growth rate we get if we start with the 8 biblical people who survived the Great Flood in year 2104 BCE and end with 310 million people in year 1000 AD. If we extrapolate the 0.42% rate backwards, we find that we have to start with 2 people in year 3500 BCE to achieve the world population of 310 million in year 1000 AD.

The higher the growth rate - the shorter is the time required to achieve a known population. Obviously, the growth rate was not constant with time, but, the long-term average could not be less than 0.12%. Using this lower limit, it would be impossible for mankind to have appeared on earth earlier than 14100 BCE. The conclusion from these calculations is that mankind appeared on earth somewhere between 3500 BCE and 14100 BCE. This time range is three orders of magnitude shorter than the so-called "scientific" estimates of millions of years ago. According to the Bible, mankind appeared on earth in year 3760 BCE. This biblical date is well within the date range calculated based on the known population growth rates.

These growth numbers may not be exactly equal to the unknown numbers in ancient times. These calculations also include extrapolations which require caution when interpreting the results. However, they are infinitely better than the imaginative speculations by some biologists who claim that mankind appeared on earth millions of years ago. Did any of those biologists ever disclose a better, more accurate, mathematical model to get their "millions of years" estimate? Pulling a rabbit out of a hat is much easier to believe than the "millions of years" estimate. Did any of those biologists ever calculate the possible consequences of their "millions of years" estimate? Let's see what happens if we assume that mankind appeared on earth not millions of years ago but only 40,000 years ago.

At the lower-limit growth rate of 0.12% per year, if we were to start with 2 people 40,000 years ago, the current world population would grow to 1000 billion billions. That's a population density of 850,000 people per square foot of earth land area. The people on earth would have to pile up 850,000 layers high to contain all of them. Even the wildest science-fiction writers could not dream of such a large number. Even if they all perished, where are their bones, 850,000 layers high? Can anyone imagine how many more bones we would find if mankind appeared on earth millions of years ago? 150 years ago, when the imaginative theories about the beginning of mankind became popular, scientists did not have computers to calculate the consequences of these speculations. 150 years ago, scientists could also not publish their theories in the journal which is available today - "Speculations in Science and Technology".

Today, unfortunately, the speculative theories about the age of the universe and the beginning of life have turned into an anti-religious political agenda which has nothing to do with science. If not for the anti-religious motivation, these speculations would have been long forgotten, together with so many other imaginative theories gone with the wind, like the aether, the flat earth, alchemy, and spontaneous generation of life.

As we can see from the examples above, dating early history is not a very promising branch of science. Fiction - maybe, but science - no.

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Physics, Functions, and Differential Equations:

Now, that we have established the scientific credibility of dating early history, let's look at the subject from a different point of view, entering the world of physics, functions, and differential equations.

Let's start with a story.

When I lived in California, I used to take walks along the ocean. One day, I found a glass bottle sealed with a cork. When I opened the cork , a genie jumped out. The genie thanked me for releasing him from his captivity and offered to grant me a wish. After a few moments of pondering, I asked the genie to make me a book which is 500 years old. The genie agreed; whispered "hocus pocus"; and the book was in my hands.

I wasn't sure whether to believe it or not. Was the book really 500 years old? On my way back home I passed near a university and went to look for a chemistry professor to analyze the book. The professor took the book into his lab, and, a few hours later, came out and said: "Yes, the book is 500 years old."

When I came home, I told the whole story to my wife, not noticing that my little son was also listening attentively. The next day I wanted to impress my son with my new book. "Guess how old this book is?" I asked my son. He didn't blink an eye and said: "This book is one day old." I was shocked. " What do you mean one day old!" I screamed at him. " This book is 500 years old. Even the professor said it is 500 years old". "Sorry", responded my son, "if the genie made it yesterday, then it is one day old."

So, how old is the book?

Since the genie made it yesterday, it is really only one day old. However, to a chemist, it looks like it is 500 years old. The reason it looks so old, is that it was made in such a way that it contains its history - it contains chemical features and changes in the composition of the paper which would normally take 500 years to develop. Once the history has been embedded into the composition of the book, it is no longer possible to tell the difference between such a book and a book which is really 500 years old.

Similarly, a fake archaeological artifact can be skillfully crafted to pass all tests and to be pronounced authentically antique. Yet, antique it is not. A scientist in the lab may discover that the artifact contains all the features of a real antique. Yet, this is no evidence that it is indeed antique. The only thing we can say with certainty is that it LOOKS antique.

Every object and every event in the physical universe can be described by a set of mathematical functions. The most common parameters of the functions are the three dimensions of space, and the dimension of time. We don't always know what the functions are, but we know that the functions exist. A unique quality of every mathematical function describing a physical object or event is that it is continuous and can be calculated over an infinitely wide range of parameters, regardless of whether the range is realistic or not. So, for a car moving from Las Vegas towards Los Angeles, the function describing the movement of the car can be calculated backwards to a location far east of Las Vegas. Mathematically, the earlier presence of the car somewhere between Las Vegas and New York is correct, even though the car has never been there. When we see the car arriving in Los Angeles, it is absolutely impossible to tell from its direction and speed, when and where the car started its trip. Regardless of whether the car actually started in Las Vegas, in Kansas City, or in New York, the arrival in Los Angeles will look identical.

Pierre-Simon, Marquis De Laplace (1749 - 1827) was a brilliant French mathematician and astronomer. His work was pivotal to the development of mathematical astronomy. Through his work with differential equations, equations which are used by scientists to describe the characteristics of physical systems, he discovered that the past and the future of the universe can be calculated mathematically.

"We may regard the present state of the universe as the effect of its past and the cause of its future. An intellect which at a certain moment would know all forces that set nature in motion, and all positions of all items of which nature is composed, if this intellect were also vast enough to submit these data to analysis, it would embrace in a single formula the movements of the greatest bodies of the universe and those of the tiniest atom; for such an intellect nothing would be uncertain and the future just like the past would be present before its eyes."

Obviously, this applies only to the physical universe, to the exclusion of Godly spiritual intervention which is outside the jurisdiction of nature and mathematics. In mathematical terms, Godly spiritual interventions would be the equivalent of the boundaries and discontinuities described above. Laplace did not believe in God, so he did not add the possibility of such intervention to his mathematical discovery. Napoleon had to do it for him. When Laplace sent to Napoleon a copy of his book about the universe, Napoleon replied: "M. Laplace, they tell me you have written this large book on the system of the universe, and have never even mentioned its Creator."

The past, present, and future of the universe (excluding spiritual effects) can be described as a solution to a large set of differential equations. Assuming we are wise enough to develop the complete set of equations, we can, using these equations, calculate the future and calculate the past, as long as we do not attempt to cross spiritually-induced boundaries and discontinuities. (Don't celebrate yet - the amount of additional scientific knowledge and computer power necessary for such calculations is millions of times greater than what is available today.)

The physical universe is so constructed, that spiritual boundaries and discontinuities are hidden. The origin of spiritual effects is outside the four dimensions of physical location and time. Sefer Yetzirah (the Book of Creation), written more than 4000 years ago, describes the universe as a five-dimensional space. It describes the physical universe as being a four-dimensional space of location and time and adds a fifth spiritual dimension. (At the end of the 19th century, physicists discovered that the physical universe is a four-dimensional space of location and time. This discovery led to the development of Einstein's theory of relativity and to the discovery of quantum mechanics.) All attempts to solve and extrapolate currently known equations to calculate the past, ignore the existence of spiritual boundaries and discontinuities and ignore the existence of the spiritual fifth dimension. In the currently available mathematical models of the four-dimensional physical universe, such boundaries and discontinuities are not represented. Therefore, the calculations of the past are not limited in range.

When we observe light rays coming from the direction of a star billions of light years away, the only scientific facts we have are the direction from which the light rays arrive, and the spectrum and intensity of the light. Everything else we try to say about this light is nothing but the result of a speculative theory - a mathematical calculation and extrapolation. The scientific data carried by this light does not include the time or the location where it started its journey. It is mathematically convenient to say that the light started its journey at a far away star billions of years ago. It looks to us as if this is when and where the light started. But, we do not know for a fact that this is indeed the case. We don't even know for a fact that the star exists. Just like the car arriving in Los Angeles from the east. It is impossible to tell from the arrival direction and speed of the car, when and where it started its journey. Similarly, it is impossible to tell from the arrival direction and speed of the car, when and where the car was manufactured.

To those who believe that God created the universe, what we learned so far leads to only one possible conclusion - God created the universe with its history. The act of creation started in the spiritual fifth dimension of the universe. Therefore, it is not visible to scientists whose science is confined to the first four dimensions. In exact mathematical terminology, what is visible to scientists is the projection of the (five-dimensional) universe into the first four dimensions. This projection is similar to the shadow of a three-dimensional object projected on a two-dimensional screen. When we look at the shadow, we get some information about the object, but most of the (three dimensional) information is invisible. It is also possible to project a shadow of a vertical pole on the ground in such a way that the shadow looks much longer than the pole itself. If we were to examine only the shadow, we would conclude that the pole is much longer than it really is. Similarly, scientific research is limited to the study of the four-dimensional projected shadow of a five-dimensional universe.

When God created the far-away stars, God also created the light rays emitted by these stars, extending all the way to infinity. When we look at a far-away star, we see the light rays exactly as they would have been if they were to start their journey at this star billions of years ago, but, this is not evidence that they actually did. Similarly, when God created the earth, God also created fossils and other ancient-looking features. The reason God created the universe with its history, is that the physical findings must match the results of calculations we might want to make by solving the equations of the universe, and extrapolating them backwards in time. If God were to create the world without its history, there would be a mismatch between the results of the calculations and the observed features. Such a mismatch would be a deficiency in God's ability to create perfection.

It is important to understand that the calculation and extrapolation backwards in time is a mathematical process. It is NOT physical evidence and it is NOT proof that anything actually existed that far back in time. All it means is that MATHEMATICALLY the world looks as if it existed that far back in time. The observed features of the universe look as if they existed that far back in time, to match the mathematical calculation. This is highlighted by the example given above, of the car arriving in Los Angeles - mathematically it looks as if the car started its journey in New York, even though it actually started in Las Vegas.

The end. That one man says something or believes something is not so important. His reputation and the associations and the titles he holds are to be considered to a small degree only. Rather the importance lies within the content of what is said. So Mr. Woods content-free rant is of no particular value, it was all opinion. This Rabbi(?)/Doctor, however, presents a few odd things we call facts and a few things we know as evidence. I would pay more attention to the evidence and the facts.

I disagree with a few of the things this doctor has stated. I would certainly enjoy having lunch with him. I love having lunch with a good friend of mine who is marginally Buddhist and somewhat agnostic. He travels the world but when he is close by he comes to visit me and my wife. We have great and fun discussions about all sorts of things. I was just imagining doing the same with this doctor. I think it would be extremely interesting. You can tell from his essay that he is a man who has an open mind even though he has strong opinions. Such a man can change your mind when he is right and have his mind changed when he is wrong.

I wonder how many of my readers would fall into the category just described? How many of you have locked minds, and how many of you can be open to change? Are you quite sure that you are someone who is willing to change your mind if the evidence demands it? Or is it possible that if you came to the door marked "change" that you would just pass it by? What if there is a door marked "truth" at the end of the hallway? Would you be afraid to open it?

All of us will come to the end of the hallway and open that door. Death is a portal to the next state of being. I believe that behind the door is theoretically a "T" intersection, with an arrow marked "Creator God" to the right and an arrow marked "Everything and everyone else" to the left. I also believe that you will have made your choice before the door opens. When I open that door, the left hallway will be blocked and I will have to turn right. If, for instance, well-known atheists and anti-Christians Richard Dawkins or P.Z. Myers open the door right this minute then the right hallway will be blocked and they will go left. They are apparently fine with that. They believe that left leads to oblivion and the cessation of being and consciousness. I believe that the left turn leads to Hell. I do not want them to go there. I wish I could convince them to book their afterlife vacation ahead of time and spend eternity with God.

You know you will die, right? People do not live forever in this state of being. No one reading this blog has a great-great-great-great grandfather still alive. Some people make it to 1oo years or more but few indeed get that far. No one lives for hundreds of years anymore. As you get older you begin to see how fleeting this life really is. My grandparents are all dead now and I am a grandparent myself! I may become a great-grandparent before I am too old but by that time I will be close to the end. That is just the way it is, you get one shot at this life and it is gone. But some of you have realized that inside yourself is an awareness that eternity awaits us. We see caterpillars cocooned and transformed into butterflies and fail to see how symbolic this is. Death is the chrysalis that will bring us forth into the next state of being. What does the caterpillar know or believe? We think he knows nothing but simply does what he was designed to do. Man, however, has the capacity to reason in the abstract and comprehend right and wrong and therefore bears some responsibility for his actions. We will all determine our future by the decisions we make in the present.

1 comment:

Anonymous said...

I agree that quote mining doesn't do much to contribute to a good discussion. But since you have come around to this point of view, can we take it that you now disown any posts in which you have used this technique in the past? And that you won't do so in future?

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